Yamaha 2400 - split second dropouts during DVD?

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  1. Tom_Mack

    Tom_Mack Stunt Coordinator

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    I just bought a Yamaha 2400 last weekend. I noticed last night while watching LOTR: TT DTS, the sound "dropped out" for like 1/10 of a second. It was just like a quick stutter. Anyone else have this problem?

    I am using a digital coax cable from my 4 year old Sony DVD player. It was not at a loud part of the movie so I am sure that the amps were not clipping (I was not watching at a very loud level anyway).

    Any ideas? Would using an optical connection help? Thanks!
     
  2. DonnyD

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    I had the same very short dropouts also using the DTS track on LOTR:TT........ but I have the Yam RX-V1 and Toshiba 4700 player......doesn't occur with DD sountrack......
    A thread a couple of weeks ago seemed to point to some dvd players being the culprit....
     
  3. Wayne Ernst

    Wayne Ernst Cinematographer

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    I wonder if this has anything to do with the DVD disc itself? If there were any marks or imperfections on the disc, it might cause such dropouts.
     
  4. Mike Veroukis

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    It could be a DVD - layer change. I would suspect the DVD player if the drop-out happens in the same spot everytime.

    - Mike
     
  5. Tom_Mack

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    Forgot to say that it is not the layer change. I still have the layer change pause (about 1.5 seconds) and this is not that. In the full 2 disc LOTR:TT movie there were 2 layer change 1.5 second pauses and 3 of these split second pauses.
     
  6. Mike.W

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    I have experienced this just this evening with the DTS-ES soundtrack on the FotR Extended Edition. It only happened on disc 2, and only on the 2nd layer. It happened only in a few quiet scenes and was not reproducible. I have a Pioneer VSX-D912K and a JVC XV-S60BK DVD player, connected via coax. Never happened with other DTS DVDs yet -- this is the only DTS-ES Discrete 6.1 DVD I've had though.
     
  7. MarkMel

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    I had the same issue with my RX-V1400. I got a new dvd player and I am using optical now. Problem gone. I switched the player and the cable at the same time so I'm not sure what solved it but it doesn't happen anymore.
     
  8. Tom_Mack

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    MarkMel -

    How long were the dropouts you had? The split second (just a quick stutter) like I had or were the dropouts longer (closer to a second)?

    I just switched to an optical cable last night. I will see
    how it works.
     
  9. MarkMel

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    Tom, see your PM.
     
  10. Mike Veroukis

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    Hmmm... check the bit rates on the DVD in the scenes that the drop-outs occure in. Possible the DVD player can't handle the throughput? This happens on my computer when I switch to DTS EX mode when watching movies, but seems to go away with normal 5.1 and especially 2 channel mixes. I suspect my sound card can't hack it, but now that I think of it, perhaps I should upgrade the cheapie cable I use.... This thread got me thinking!!!!

    - Mike
     
  11. Jeff W.

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    Make sure you don't have any post processing going on either in the DVD or the receiver. Turn off any "DNR", "Night mode", "3D mode" or other fake-surround effects, and all other post processing effects.

    I had this problem with my old Onkyo receiver on DTS tracks if I used the "Cinema Re-EQ" feature. Turning that off fixed the problem (and gave me my treble back).
     
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    I have a 2400 using the optic cable and have watched many DVD's. Never had a sound drop out at all other then the normal 1 during the layer change.

    Have watch DD5.1, DD5.1/EX, DTS5.1, DTS5.1/ES
     

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