Wow, the Russians finally raised the Kursk..

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  1. Jay H

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    Wonder if there's going to be some kind of Discovery channel special on this "Raising the Kursk" or something but that sounds like an interesting engineering task.
    I still get goosebumps to think of what those poor soldiers were going through when it sank.
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    Interesting that they would raise it, though its mission is no different than that of ships and submarines from all navies around the world. Trying to paint it as a terrorist device is alarmist propaganda. How many dozens of nuclear subs does the US have positioned in striking distance of countries around the world? Are they terrorist threats too?
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    Let's keep the politics OUT OF THE THREAD please.
    The raising of the Kursk is an interesting technological challenge; from that perspective, it can certainly be debated here.
    Politics... will not be, even if the thread needs to be closed.
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    An amazing feat of engineering, and probably done in rough seas.
     
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    Interesting. I'd like to see a documentary on this. It reminds me of the Arthur C. Clarke novel Ghost from the Grand Banks, in which raising the Titanic is discussed in a credible fashion. Well, sounded credible to a non-engineer like me... [​IMG]
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    The one article I read yesterday says the barge that is towing the part that they raised is trying to beat the famous rough seas so they can take the shortest path to the port. I remember a few articles long time ago, that their window of opportunity is typically short due to the latitude of where it sank, and the rough seas that frequent the area most of the year. Reports saying the tow is supposed to take 2 days to a port outside Murmansk.
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    The headline gives the impression that the Russians used their technology to raise the Kursk. This would be truely amazing as they did not have the technology to get down to rescue the crew.
    Well truth be told, in the Wall Steet Journal today it states that a Danish salvage consortium is responsible for bringing up the sub. I had visions of the Russians looking up in the Yellow Pages (err Pink Pages in Russia no?) and calling up Vasili's Nuclear Sub Salvage and Refrigerator Moving Company. A bunch of ex Soviet weight lifters are put on the end of cables attached to the sub and told to do their thing.
    Oh, sorry, maybe I am being insensitive to those who have pride in Russian technology.
    I am sorry for the sailors.
     
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    [​IMG] believe it or not, I was flipping the channel last night after watching 'The Amazing Race' and on the Discovery channel at 10PM EST, there was a program called exactly that which I said it should be: Raising the Kursk
    They had a bunch of CGI to go along with some consultants and they explained what the Kursk was, it's mission, how the theory went that it sunk and how it was raised and towed to shore. Tom Clancy was a guest speaker as well as a former Russian Military Advisor and some sea salvage experts from MIT and the ilk. Pretty interesting but they didn't go into the technical/engineering details that I would of liked to see about the actual raising. Perhaps they could of split it into two sections, one about the incident itself and one about how they raised it and towed it and stuff...
    There is a website I saw on the side of the barge:
    www.kursksalvage.com
    But I haven't yet checked it out...
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