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Discussion in 'DVD' started by Marc Carra, Apr 29, 2002.
No I would not purchase a P&S version, however I would consider renting.
I would not buy. I would set up a petition if I had to but, no sale if P&S.
Hello all. I am the biggest supporter of OAR that I know this side of the Mississippi. However, I am not going to go ballistic if I cannot watch certain films OAR. For some films, it can be quite hard to get them OAR. In my film class, we were only able to get a Hong Kong film Chun King Express in MAR. Even though I don't like viewing a film in MAR, I still thouroughly enjoyed the film and reccomend it to you all. Although I fully support OAR, and will do what I can to get a film OAR, I am not going to dismiss a film if it has not been released in OAR yet. So in the case of Chun King Express MAR will suffice until I can see it OAR. However, watching Star Warsin MAR is a complete NO NO and totally against the rules in my book! LONG LIVE LASERDISC!
I own two pan & scan discs:
Hellraiser 3 (Because it isn't available in widescreen).
Child's Play (I have the rest, and I needed to complete the collection).
"Warlock" is a favourite of mine, but only available in pan & scan. I still have not bought it, in hope that they may someday release it in OAR.
If in 3 years, it is still not in Widescreen, I might buy it. I have the VHS of it right now, so I'm not in any rush, even if it is one of my favourite films of all time.
I haven't bought one yet, but I've been so tempted to buy Fearless by Peter Weir for so long since it's only P&S. Argh!
I have two pan/scam only discs in my collection:
The Ipcress File (R2) - I didn't realise it was pan/scam, but I bought it very cheap, and now that I have the OAR R1 Anchor Bay release, I use it to demo how very evil pan/scam is.
Transformers The Movie since a widescreen version apparently could never be released.
Oh, and The Man With Two Brains, which is open-matte, so I use zoom to get OAR.
I have one..."Crumb". 4:3 IS it's OAR. As for anything else..NEVER!
I think there is a big difference between advocating P&S and admitting that you might buy it for a handful for certain films you love and it is the only way you can see it without buying a 35mm projector and print.
Also, I think for the hardcore film buff, there is a large difference between pan-and-scan and true open-matte (where it does exist), as you can restore OAR to the latter with your own matting.
Is it generally the rule that a 1.85:1 film that is "fullscreen" is always open matte? I know that a 2.35:1 film will always be Pan & Scammed (unless shot in Super 35), but I was wondering if 1.85:1 films are always spared that treatment?
Well, good news, sort of. Upon further viewing, "White Fang" is in 4:3 open matte. Using the the letterbox zoom feature of my Panasonic RP91, the image is perfectly framed on my widescreen set. As good as a non-anamorphic letterboxed transfer? Yes. As good as it could have been? No.
With the exception of vintage OAR 4:3 movies, I never buy anything but anamorphic wide screen. Never.
I have not, and will not, buy a P&S disc.
I bought "From Beyond" because I know it will never be redone in widescreen. It just wasn't that popular a movie and my video tape was worn out. No regrets BUT I promise not to do it again.
I own one DVD in 4:3 that should have been given a theatrical widescreen aspect ratio...Transformers: The Movie.
Only because it is close to my heart as a childhood favorite and the fact that its appearence on DVD itself is a miracle.
Some folks here mentioned that you can matte a full frame transfer by simply matting it yourself...well, I disagree with that to a certain extent.
Yes, by definition (theoretically), you could just matte off the full frame transfer to a 1.85:1 approx. ratio...but keep in mind that most times on a 4:3 "full frame" transfer certain shots and/or sequences in movies are zoomed-in or changed to maintain the original intent to a certain degree. By artificially matting a full frame movie yourself, these sequences will be that much more altered/cropped.
I much prefer a properly matted transfer as opposed to a "full frame" one.
With the exception of Transformers, I can say with confidence, I will not buy any non-OAR DVDs and have not since.
It's not the same movie anyway.
Yup, this thread is a great idea. Let's all show the studio lurkers that we'd buy anyway--P&S or not.
I wouldn't care if it was 2001 or Vertigo. If it was P&S only, I would do without. No exceptions.
I have more than 800 discs and not a single one is p&s.
I consider open-matte a lesser evil, but I still won't buy it (the rare special case like Kubrick aside).
Just to add: Jerry is right - often the true OAR can not be recovered in an open-matte transfer because of repo-ed shots.