Widescreen version of "Karate Kid" ????

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  1. Jeff Holton

    Jeff Holton Stunt Coordinator

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    I really want to add "The Karate Kid" to my collection, but the only versions I have been able to find on DVD are formated 3:4 version...

    Has anyone seen, or know about a widescreen version?
     
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    moving to software....
     
  3. DaViD Boulet

    DaViD Boulet Lead Actor

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    Jeff,

    we're all waiting for Columbia to wake up on this one. We're there with ya!

    -dave
     
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    This just seems like a title that they will eventually re-release as a SE. I mean, they did put a couple of extra features on their Karate Kid II disc. Then again, this isn't the same Columbia of a couple of years ago. I hope they'll consider a SE of Karate Kid.
     
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    You can get all three of them here for $17.81, all in anamorphic widescreen if you can do PAL Region 4.
    Here is a review. Looks like the Australia and UK discs are the same, only the Aussie version is much cheaper.
    Jeff
     
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    Gary_O Stunt Coordinator

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    I've been waiting for this as well.

    I'm guessing they may be holding off until 2004 so they can do a 20th Anniversary SE
     
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    I too am patiently waiting. It seems ridiculous you can get Karate Kid II in widescreen but not the more popular first one.
     
  8. David Von Pein

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    Is the current Karate Kid (1.33:1 DVD) Full-Frame or Pan-and-Scan?
    What is the OAR of TKK? 1.85 or 2.35?
    If 2.35, then (obviously) it's gonna be a P&S 1.33 DVD. But aren't MOST 1.85 AR films matted, with no P&S'ing needed/required? (Is P&Scanning even needed on a 1.85 ratio?)
    If TKK is not P&S (but matted instead), I don't see any huge reason to be overly upset by a 1.33 DVD release. You won't be missing any picture information. Just like Anatomy Of A Murder, which is 1.33, but not P&S'ed.
    Anatomy is just TOO good a film to not be in most people's DVD collections (FF or otherwise). IMO.
     
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    It's open matte
     
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    Karate Kid is 1.85:1. The DVD is presented sans matting.

    Anatomy of a Murder is a different situation in that it wasn't made for a lot of matting. 1.85:1 ends up making very unbalanced compositions. IMO, 1.66:1 would be the ideal matting ratio for DVD, but Columbia doesn't do anything lesser than 1.85:1 for DVD.
     
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    Thanks, Jeff & Patrick.
    I assume, then, since "Karate" is 1.85 Open Matte, this means it's NOT a P&S release? Correct?
    It was shot in 1.33, but matted to 1.85 for theaters...correct?
    If I am assuming correctly....then many, many DVD e-tailers (and DVD Profiler as well) are in error when listing TKK as "P&S". It makes it very difficult to figure out what's correct and what's not.
    Amazingly (obviously an oversight), DVD Empire shows that "Karate 1" is the very first Anamorphic 1.33:1 DVD! [​IMG][​IMG]
     
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    Yes, this one needs to be released as an SE!!
     
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    Perhaps if you're just watching a DVD on "TV" it's not as serious a problem...
    But if you've got a nice 16x9 HD rear-projection or front projection set up and you're attempting to project/display films in "theater" style, you not only loose the director-intended 1.78:1 framing, but you loose the resolution of the widescreen image if you attempt to "zoom" the 4x3 lbxed image to matte it on-the-fly on your 16x9 screen.
    And as others have pointed out, there are very few 100% open-matte 4x3 full-frame transfers. Most involve a combination of open-matting, zooming, and PanScanng. It's never (rarely) a simple matter of them "opening up the matte" for the entire film.
    In any case, it's really pathetic when you've got a 16x9 100" screen to get a hold of a DVD of a film and project it 1.33:1 when it was released theatrically as 1.85:1!
    -dave
     

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