Why are Americans so stubborn about $1 coins?

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  1. Jeff Adkins

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    After just spending 5 weeks in Europe, I can't help but wonder why Amercians are so damned stubborn about accepting $1 coins. I found it to be so much more conveient using the 1 and 2 Euro/Pound coins over paper bills. Especially in vending machines. Ever try to stuff a dollar bill into a vending machine? In my experience it only works about 50% of the time. Overall I preferred pulling a coin out of my pocket for simple things like newspapers and Coca-Cola as opposed to pulling out my wallet.

    I've seen Americans get violently upset when they've been given a dollar coin as change. I once saw someone kick the shit out of a stamp vending machine at the post office because he got 4 dollar coins in change.

    Maybe there is a reason that I'm just overlooking, but the resistance just seems silly to me. What do you guys up in Canada use for $1?

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  2. Jeff Ulmer

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    We have one and two dollar coins, no paper.
     
  3. Lew Crippen

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    Australia has both $1 and $2 coins and of course it logically follows that the larger (in diameter) coin is the $1 denomination.

    Flying across the Tasman you will find that the larger coin in New Zealand is the $2 coin.
     
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    Probably the weight and bulkiness is one of the problems. Ten $1 bills fold up nicely in your pocket or wallet. Ten $1 coins are a heavy mass bumping your leg everytime you take a step.

    I don't like to carry loose change, period. It all goes into a jar on the nightstand to be sorted a couple times a year, rolled, and changed into more paper money at the bank. [​IMG]

    Not to mention the US Treasury screwed up from the very start when they made the first $1 coin look exactly like a Quarter.
     
  5. Shane Bos

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    The bonus to having $1 and $2 coins is that when you empty your pockets of change into that jar on the night stand and eventually when you get around to rolling it you have way more money than you thought you did. Also alot easier to find enough money in hte ashtray for a quick burger.
     
  6. Ted Lee

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    i'm like malcolm. i hate carrying change in my pockets. it all goes in my coin jar. (i just recently cashed out about 60.00 in change)

    if i had to carry all those flippin $1 coins in my pocket i'd go bonkers.
     
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    But strippers all across America would revolt if dollar bills were replaced by coins...
     
  8. Ted Lee

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    boy patrick - i'm not even gonna touch that one... [​IMG]
     
  9. Mark Shannon

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    Been to New Zealand...I'm trying to remember what the coins look like, and if I took any back with me.

    I know this is kinda off topic, but their bills are the most amazing ones, and possibly most counterfeit proof, I've seen. The bills have transparent plastic parts, with what looks like an engraving or watermark on he plastic of some person (can't remember who). Those have gotta be hard to fake.

    Back on topic, Canada has both $1 and $2 denominations, called Loonies, and Toonies, respectively. The Toonie is the largest coin, and is Silver with a Gold center. The Loonie is all Gold (not real, I'm sure).

    Tho it is convenient, with the removal of the $2 bill a couple years ago, the Toonie really does add more weight to your pocket.
     
  10. Ted Todorov

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    As someone who has spent considerable time in coin happy Europe, I am very, very glad that we are sticking to our $1 bills. Much more convenient to carry and much less likely to get lost.

    Vending machines: for sums above $1 they should accept credit cards. Problem solved.

    I hate loose change. The best time I had was during a visit to Bulgaria in the early '90s, when inflation had made all coins completely worthless, thus there were no coins in circulation whatsoever -- bills only. I totally loved it.

    Long live our old-fashioned stubbornness -- in this case, anyway.

    Ted
     
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    I prefer the coins, for the most part. Sure, i don't go walking around with lots of coins in my pockets, but also wonder about the "$10 change is inconvenient, but paper isn't" argument. Hell, if I have $10 cash, its either in fives, a ten, or half a twenty. [​IMG]

    That being said, Canada has a great debit card network (an advantage to having national banks) and between that and my AMEX/VISA I rarely use cash. Usually have just enough cash for the 6/49 and Super-7
     
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    "You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pockets, do you?" - Col. Bat Guano
     
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    I never liked the buggers, but I'm coming around. We have a local theater that always gives dollar coins as change, and of course the Post Office (I also say I guy about kick the shit out the machine when it would not accept the coins back to purchase more stamps!). I also liked using them in Canada, and am getting more confident using them in U.S. Initially, I was afraid that I would have to explain to merchants that it was really money. You kind of hold it out opened handed like foreign money, as if saying "Is this okay?" But I am starting to hand them over with confidence. I think it might actually take this time. The old excuses just don't hold true (it used to be reluctance at the size of the Kennedy, the politics of the Susan B., the similarity to the quarter, the hostility of merchants who did not have an extra tray in their change drawer). The gold coin also looks really cool--makes me feel like Harry Potter to have one in my pocket.
     
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    Hehe, you got it!
     
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    I have been to Australia a few times, and I really liked the $1 and $2 coins. Much more convenient, IMHO. But what I REALLY liked is that tax is included in every price that you see AND all prices are rounded to the neared 0.05. No friggin' pennies! It just makes sense.
     
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    Just in case the non-Canadians are wondering, here's what the loonie looks like:

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    And the toonie:

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    The toonie is a physically a bit larger than the loonie.
     

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