Which subwoofer cable? Help!

Discussion in 'Accessories, Cables, and Remotes' started by eskendir, Apr 2, 2003.

  1. eskendir

    eskendir Agent

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2002
    Messages:
    33
    Likes Received:
    0
    What type of subwoofer cable gives optimal performance? I have found Acoustic research pro series 12' for $15 and Dayton cable from partsexpress.com for $12. Does it matter which brand I use. Need help fast . Thanks.
     
  2. ChadLB

    ChadLB Screenwriter

    Joined:
    May 5, 2002
    Messages:
    1,523
    Likes Received:
    0
    Either will work. If it were me buying I would buy the AR just a preference.
     
  3. Chu Gai

    Chu Gai Lead Actor

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2001
    Messages:
    7,270
    Likes Received:
    1
    6 of one. you can also pick up a length of RG6 terminated with F connectors at RS or wherever and add RCA's. Lots of ways to do this and they all work.
     
  4. eskendir

    eskendir Agent

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2002
    Messages:
    33
    Likes Received:
    0
    I have to pick some spikes from partsexpress so I guess if the performance is the same then I will save some shipping charge of buying the cable elsewhere. Still would like to here more input.
     
  5. eskendir

    eskendir Agent

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2002
    Messages:
    33
    Likes Received:
    0
    So those expense subwoofer cables do not increase performance? Just marketing hype?
     
  6. Arthur Vino

    Arthur Vino Stunt Coordinator

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2003
    Messages:
    208
    Likes Received:
    0
    Go for AR pro line..
    expensive might pass the signal better, it's worthiness is up to u..
     
  7. Christopher~O

    Christopher~O Stunt Coordinator

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2002
    Messages:
    121
    Likes Received:
    0
    My SVS came with a Better Cable. I've seen the banner ad at this site, check them out.

    Cheers,
    Chris
     
  8. eskendir

    eskendir Agent

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2002
    Messages:
    33
    Likes Received:
    0
    I do not wish to spend more than $20 for 12'sub cable. Better cables might be better, but it too expensive for me.
     
  9. eskendir

    eskendir Agent

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2002
    Messages:
    33
    Likes Received:
    0
    How about Monster THX sub cable for $20 from Circuit City?
     
  10. M_a_r_k^NE

    M_a_r_k^NE Agent

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2003
    Messages:
    42
    Likes Received:
    0
    Best: XLO ER-SW sub cable for $ 99.00 (3Meter)

    Midpoint: Audioquest Sidewinder $ 50.00(2 meter kit)

    Cheapend: Go with what you have now.

    Check out www.usedcable.com for this stuff.
     
  11. Christopher~O

    Christopher~O Stunt Coordinator

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2002
    Messages:
    121
    Likes Received:
    0
     
  12. Chu Gai

    Chu Gai Lead Actor

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2001
    Messages:
    7,270
    Likes Received:
    1
    of all the cables, so little is required of a sub cable in that it needs only pass frequencies below about 120 Hz. Any shielded RG6 or RG59 as well as others with solid or stranded Copper center conductors will do the job you're looking at fine. also being as the frequencies are low differences in capacitance as you may see published don't play a role in the faithful transmission of the signal.
     
  13. eskendir

    eskendir Agent

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2002
    Messages:
    33
    Likes Received:
    0
    Chu Gai, thanks for your input. I did some research yesterday and came to the same conclusion. I will pick up the cheapest.
     
  14. Chu Gai

    Chu Gai Lead Actor

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2001
    Messages:
    7,270
    Likes Received:
    1
    and since i'm assuming you've got a powered sub, make it shielded too.
     
  15. Neil Joseph

    Neil Joseph Lead Actor

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 1998
    Messages:
    8,332
    Likes Received:
    1
    Real Name:
    Neil Joseph
    Moving to Tweaking/Connections/Accessories
     
  16. Ray Dockrey

    Ray Dockrey Auditioning

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2003
    Messages:
    2
    Likes Received:
    0
    I just did this last weekend. I bought a 25 foot RG59 cable and adapters and cost me less then twelve dollars. It worked great and I think the sound is greatly improved over the cheap RCA cable that came with the system.
     
  17. Chu Gai

    Chu Gai Lead Actor

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2001
    Messages:
    7,270
    Likes Received:
    1
    I'm sure it does. You do realize, that thou hast violated the 10%, 15%, it keeps going higher folks, rule for cables [​IMG]
     
  18. Bob McElfresh

    Bob McElfresh Producer

    Joined:
    May 22, 1999
    Messages:
    5,182
    Likes Received:
    0
    A few thoughts on cables:

    - Subwoofer signals are the easiest signals for a coax to carry. HD Video are the hardest/have more issues.

    - Human hearing is very, very poor in the lower-frequency ranges. Add this to the fact that you get a LOT of sound reflected from your walls from a sub means the cable is one of the lesser-important parts of good subwoofer sound.

    - Subwoofers seem to like snug-fitting RCA plugs. My personal opinion (not generally accepted) is that people hear differences between subwoofer cables simply because of snug/loose fitting connectors. Some brands like Monster are known to have grip-of-death connectors which alone might make them a superior subwoofer cable.

    - Some subwoofer cables have arrows: When you have 2 amplifiers (receiver & a subwoofer amp) connected you can get a ground-loop. Some "Subwoofer" cables have little arrows which usually mean the destination end does NOT actually connect to the cable shield. This breaks the ground loop. If you wanted the cable to work right the first time, or you get a subwoofer humm, you might consider one of these.

    - You CAN use RG6 CATV coax with adaptors to create a long cable. But outdoor CATV coax is weatherproof, stiff, ugly, and does not like to lie flat as you route it around the room. I bought the white stuff when I played with different sub postitions in my room, but when the up-front-corner became the best spot, I replaced it with a real audio cable. It was shorter, layed better and looked nicer. (I'm not totally immune to appearances [​IMG] ).

    Hope this helps.
     
  19. Chu Gai

    Chu Gai Lead Actor

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2001
    Messages:
    7,270
    Likes Received:
    1
    Human hearing is also very poor in the upper frequency ranges and becomes progressively worse with both age and exposure to loud sounds.
    Our hearing is most sensitive in the 1-5 (give or take 1) kHz range.
    I've thought about your comments regarding snug fitting sub cables Bob and if that's what some people have noticed it seems to me that this may well point to other issues.
    poor connections either on the male/female areas in which case a judicious use of contact cleaner followed perhaps by an application of a conductive lubricant might be in order.
    issues with the actual connector due either to poor crimping, soldering, etc.

    I agree that it's a bit more problematical for video signals as their frequency rises, but finding bulk cable in the vicinity of $1 or so for that is pretty trivial. It starts getting expensive when one's looking to select a wire that's overdesigned for the task at hand. Could be worse though, we might be sourcing from a military supplier.
     

Share This Page