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Keith_R

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Hey all, I'm using Win98SE and IE6.0. The problem that I'm having is on the internet with pictures and icons (especially here at HTF and a few other websites) the pictures don't always load up and I'm left with these weird blank boxes. The problem is very correctable by going to the pictures --> right clicking -->"show picture". This fixes it up right away but it is very annoying and I'd like to know if there is anything I can do to fix this? thanks.
 

Ricky Hustle

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Go to Tools-Internet Options.

Click the 'advanced' tab, then check the box that says "Show Pictures"
 

Tekara

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sometimes, I;ve noticed similar problems when the internet is congested, internet explorer will "time-out" and just put a blank box up. I can't remember how off hand but I know there is a way to make internet explorer wait longer for information which tends to fix a lot of these problems. you can try searching google and see if you can pull something on this up.

best of luck to you,
 

Patrick Cate

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I've had IE develop this problem on 2 of my previous computers. I never found out what the cause was, or a way to fix it (even by upgrading or reinstalling IE). If you ever find a solution please post it here. I'd like to know just in case it crops up again on my current computer.
 

Camp

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Go to Tools-Internet Options.

Click the 'advanced' tab, then check the box that says "Show Pictures"
Good suggestion...but why on earth would anyone have that box unselected??

I too have the same issue with IE6. It may well be related to Internet traffic but I haven't been able to reproduce the effect with current versions of Netscape or Safari. I'm leaning toward thinking it's an Internet Explorer problem.

I notice most of the missing images I see are images that vary based upon an event (generally a cookie). Images like the light bulb here at HTF that indicates if a new post has been made since your last visit. I think IE doesn't handle this type of image as well (or as quickly) as other browsers.
 

Max Leung

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Could it be a problem with the proxy server? Sometimes, ISPs will put up a proxy server that intercepts port 80 traffic without telling anyone.

Try unchecking the "Automatically detect settings" box in the LAN Settings window (accessible from Internet Options->Connections tab). Also, make sure the "Use Proxy Server" box is unchecked.

However, this may not work if the ISP intercepts port 80. You may need to call them up and ask them (and give them hell if they are doing that). You can test this if you open a website that uses a different port, which you can tell if the URL has something like http://thispornsite.com:1000 , which uses port 1000.
 

Rob Gillespie

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I'm pretty sure this is an IE6 issue. I get it myself here on a fairly regular basis. When I ran W2K, IE5.01 would load images perfectly. As soon as I upgraded to 6 I'd get the problem Keith describes.

Now I'm on XP on both of my main machines I get the same weird behaviour. I imagine there's some internal time-out happening within IE6 but how you overcome that is a question I've never found an answer to.
 

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God, this is still driving me nuts! and it is not just related to HTF it happens at other sites too. I really wish there was a way to fix this because it drives me crazy. I believe it is related to .gif images and it is probably a IE problem like many of you have said because I began to notice it on the school computers which are all new Dells that probably are using IE6. Anyone found a way to fix this? is there a patch? thanks.
 

Ken Chan

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This may be directly related to the fact that IE is not caching images from HTF, or any other sites using a specifically configured (and very popular) web server. Because the images are not cached, IE must request them from the webserver every time a page is loaded. (Even if the image is used more than once on a page, the image is requested only once per page.) If for whatever reason the request fails or times out, you get the little red X. When you try again, odds are it will probably work. For browsers that are caching images properly, their exposure to these plain old internet hiccups is much lower.

While we wait for Microsoft to fix this problem (gory details here), HTF might consider looking into working around it on the server side. I skimmed the details, but the issue is with mod_gzip/1.3.26.1a, always setting the Vary header (to Accept-Encoding) in the HTTP response. This works OK for pages like index.php, where the Content-Encoding actually is gzip (compressed), but not for images, which do not have that Content-Encoding (nor should they; recompressing a GIF is dumb). Fixing this might make a dent in the bandwidth the server uses to pump out the icons, over and over and over.

Slightly off-topic, but since I was looking at the IE cache: have you all checked the Settings for your Temporary Internet Files lately? The cache size is apparently some percentage of hard drive capacity. On this computer, it was set to save over a gig, and it was using over 350 MB in 30,000 files. Do I really want to save that much crap? (No, I reset it to 75 MB.) Also, the hidden index.dat file to manage all that was over 13 MB, even after I deleted all the TIFs. I had to jump through some hoops to nuke it manually.

//Ken
 

Ken Chan

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Thought I'd bump this since it might affect the operation of HTF. That and it took a while to track down :)

//Ken
 

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