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Discussion in 'Archived Threads 2001-2004' started by Todd Christ, Jan 16, 2002.
so i see some folks talking about [rant]SuperBit DVD's [/rant] - what the heck is that?!?!
They are a DVD that is produced using higher bitrates than a regular DVD for the Video and audio, they use such a high bitrate there is no room for extra's. The titles offered in Superbit are real limited right now. I haven't seen one so I can't comment on how much better they are.
Use the search function.. there's been tons of threads about this in the past.
To give you my honest opinion on Superbits....
These are re-releases of movies already available
The idea is that all the extras have been removed
in order to gain more bandwidth room to present the
movie at a higher bitrate.
The truth of the matter, is that this new bitrate
is not much higher than the bitrate of most movies
being released to DVD.
Most people seem to see a slight improvement in
picture because of the higher bitrate. However,
take a person off the street who doesn't know any
better and I doubt they will notice the difference
between the original pressing and the Superbit
The people that seem to notice the most improvement
are those with high-end equipment.
Take most any recent release by Fox, Dreamworks,
Warner and Universal and put them up against a
Superbit transfer and you'll realize that
the other studios are putting out just as fantastic
transfers without claiming they are doing anything
special with the video bitrate.
My advice is that if you already own the standard
version of a title, don't spend the money to upgrade
to Superbit. You'll lose the extras on the
disc (deluxe menus and bonus features). If you don't
already own a particular title, THEN I would recommend
to purchase the Superbit version.
I think what Columbia needs to do is to release
ALL their high-profile titles in SUPERBIT
initially, and include a secondary disc for the
While I agree with Ron's overall evaluation of superbits, I do think you have to evaluate individual titles on a case-by-case basis. A fair number of the titles being given superbits treatment were initially released by Columbia before dual-layer discs were available. In those days, Columbia rarely included extras, so the superbits version is purely a matter of fitting the movie onto a disc with much greater capacity, with most of the extra bits being alotted to the picture. Examples that I've seen to date are Desperado (which also appears to be a new transfer) and The Fifth Element.
It's true that you need good equipment, properly adjusted, to fully experience the difference, but it's there. But Ron's point about two-disc editions from studios like Fox is an important one. In that regard, "superbits" is just Columbia's way of creating a name brand for something that other studios are already doing as a matter of course.
I agree with Ron in that Columbia/TriStar shouldn't use the higher bitrate as a secondary option for high profile titles but rather as the norm. I only own one Superbit title (I chose the visually lush Dracula) and the DTS track is pretty nice. I didn't own the original version, however, so I cannot compare.
I don't like the packaging, however. It looks 'stale' and 'tacked on.' If Columbia truly wants to market Superbit as a separate product from their 'regular' DVDs, they should be a lot more creative with the way they incorporate the Superbit logo into the packaging (overt but maintaining the theme of the particular release).
BTW my Costco had a 5 superbit DVD package for $75.
I know it had at least AF1, Johnny Nmunoic, and Crouching Tiger...oh, the 5th element
On my 58" Elite:
1. Dracula has significantly better colour than the original. It actually made me ooh and ahh.
2. Crouching Tiger is actually watchable now. The original release had tonnes of flaws that are not eliminated, but are significantly reduced.