I've got the (sub) basic cable package; it's about $9 / mo for local networks (and a few extra channels that aren't filtered); when I found my then new-house had terrible reception, I got the most basic cable package for TV watching (a painful, but necessary step back from the full digital cable with DVR package I had in my apartment). Now, with my new Tivo, I was thinking about getting the standard basic (analog) cable line-up; about 100 channels with the normal Discovery, TNT, and HGTV fare. Last time I had this line-up, it was under $40 / month. I was shocked with Time Warner explained that that package is priced the same as digital cable: $62 / month! I can understand that the digital package, with 700 channels and HD, is $62. But I'm flabbergasted that there's nothing available for less than that; that the analog packaged is priced the same. So, no cable upgrade for me. This make me curious about other areas: what rates do you have, cable or dish?