What Spielberg movies you didn't like and why?

Discussion in 'Movies' started by Sam Davatchi, Aug 26, 2009.

  1. Guest

    I was one of those kids that loved Hook, and those Lost Boys really appealed to my demographic at the time, much more than the pirates, with their scorpion-torture devices, who were much too terrifying.
     
  2. Hicks

    Hicks Agent

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2009
    Messages:
    35
    Likes Received:
    0
    I actually didn't like Jurassic Park much myself. I read the book before the movie came out and was pretty disappointed that all the in depth stuff about chaos theory, which in essence is really what the book is about, was dumbed down to one brief scene and the rest of the film was basically just a big chase sequence.

    A.I. while interesting really didn't gel for me and was obviously the work of two directors who's visions of the film weren't necessarily on the same page.

    Indy 4, while rewatching it on BD all I could think was that the great Harrison Ford deserved a better movie than this ridiculous mess.

    And that's pretty much it, I've enjoyed all of his other movies to varying degrees. Although I never bothered with Always, JP2 or The Terminal and haven't gotten around to seeing Empire of the Sun yet.
     
  3. Joe:C

    Joe:C Second Unit

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2005
    Messages:
    494
    Likes Received:
    0
    I would go with these two movies as well.
     
  4. WillG

    WillG Producer

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2003
    Messages:
    5,621
    Likes Received:
    131
    "Jaws I've only ever seen on crappy TV prints, in 4:3, but I've never really enjoyed it yet."

    Well, you've pretty much just answered you're own statement there
     
  5. Guest

    Yes, but some movies are shot on good quality film stock (most stock was poor in the 70's, even bigger budget movies) and some are well-enough composed, produced and made that they are still enjoyable when you accidentally catch them on crappy free-to-air TV as you're growing up. Jaws seems not to be one of them.
     
  6. Colin Jacobson

    Colin Jacobson Producer

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2000
    Messages:
    5,928
    Likes Received:
    498
    Did you entertain the notion that it's BECAUSE "Jaws" was well-composed for the 2.35:1 ratio that it doesn't work when butchered? It seems weird to criticize a movie's composition when you're not experiencing the correct dimensions...
     
  7. Colin Jacobson

    Colin Jacobson Producer

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2000
    Messages:
    5,928
    Likes Received:
    498
    My main problems with "Hook" from my review::

    "At more than two hours and 20 minutes, Hook is much too long and it moves at a snail's pace for the most part. Spielberg seems far too concerned with establishing the back story, an issue that seems almost meaningless. The audience is already familiar with most of the characters, and the plot's main twist - that Pan has grown up and become a serious adult - doesn't take an hour to explain. If I was so bored by what was happening during much of the movie's first half, I can't imagine how bad it must be for younger kids.

    Speaking of kids, they manifest some of Hook's biggest problems as well. The children who play Peter's offspring aren't an issue; little Amber Scott is appropriately adorable as youngest daughter Maggie, and Charlie Korsmo delivers a very good performance as son Jack.

    The kiddie problem here comes from the Benetton ad castoffs picked to play the Lost Boys. From the biggest to the smallest, they all share one characteristic: they're really annoying and they consistently bring down the film. These kids scream "Hollywood cute" so loudly that the sound drowns out any positives; all I could think when they were onscreen was how much I hoped they'd leave.

    Since the Lost Boys are a major component of the Neverland scenes, that's not a good thing. Their segments showed the film's flaws in other ways as well; at those times it was much easier to distinguish how much of Hook favored spectacle over heart.

    It's pretty clear that by this point in his career, Spielberg was not the same filmmaker he was a decade or more prior to that time. He entered his "serious" stage and simply didn't seem very interested in fun movies. Hook was supposed to mark a return to that territory but all it demonstrated was how far out of touch he had become. He'd regain his talent for the spectacular with Jurassic Park, of course - even its detractors have to recognize what an exciting piece of work it remains, and even its much maligned 1997 sequel (The Lost World) offers some terrific action pieces - but Hook clearly marked the demise of Spielberg's ability to create something along the lines of an ET.

    And that's too bad, for as good as his straight action films are, Spielberg really excelled at the magical fantasies like ET and Close Encounters of the Third Kind. He hasn't attempted another film of that sort since Hook and I honestly don't think he will; right now Spielberg appears able to invest himself in either exciting action flicks that lack depth or more serious historical pieces and that's it. The Spielberg who made so many of us cry over a wrinkly puppet in 1982 is dead, and Hook acts as the funeral."
     
  8. Guest

    Unfair perhaps, but to anyone who grew up bf widescreen TVs were invented, it was all you had. I first saw many 2:35 movies on TV before widescreen TVs were invented, and I've got to say, I still enjoyed plenty of them. Jaws wasn't one of them.
     
  9. Colin Jacobson

    Colin Jacobson Producer

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2000
    Messages:
    5,928
    Likes Received:
    498
    Which is fine, but it still seems really odd to criticize the composition of something you know you're not seeing at the CORRECT composition. Some films translate to P&S better than others. I never liked "Jaws" or "Alien" when cropped, but they're great widescreen...
     
  10. Guest


    Colin, I unreservedly apologise! I just watched Jaws for the first time in its OAR, and it completely made the difference. I completely enjoyed it! It is completely classy in the way its composed, which I absolutely never knew! Love to see it on Blu ray, with truer colours etc. So glad you gave me a hard time and I gave the movie another chance!!!
     
  11. WillG

    WillG Producer

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2003
    Messages:
    5,621
    Likes Received:
    131
    Ahem.........
     
  12. JonZ

    JonZ Lead Actor

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 1998
    Messages:
    7,795
    Likes Received:
    8
    I dont think Hook is a good movie at all,but I think some of the performances are so entertaining, especially Hoffmans Hook, that its easy for me to watch this movie even thought I dont think its very good and dont even really like it.

    Ive yet to see Indy 4, and based on the comments above, think Im gonna pick up the Jurassic Park book.
     
  13. TravisR

    TravisR Studio Mogul

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2004
    Messages:
    26,615
    Likes Received:
    3,787
    Location:
    The basement of the FBI building
    I'm sure you're really only here to post your spam link but you're incorrect. Speilberg, Ford and Lucas all agreed on the script.
     
  14. Gary Seven

    Gary Seven Grand Poo Pah

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2003
    Messages:
    1,612
    Likes Received:
    160
    Location:
    Lake Worth, Florida
    Real Name:
    Gaston
    Spielberg has said that composition is 50 percent of the movie. You really have to see his movies in OAR to give them a proper chance. Jaws is certainly one of them, as Ben found out.
     
  15. Kevin Hewell

    Kevin Hewell Cinematographer

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2003
    Messages:
    2,163
    Likes Received:
    93
    How can you guys consider yourselves film fans but have never seen quite a few of the movies of one of the greatest directors of all time?
     
  16. cineMANIAC

    cineMANIAC Cinematographer
    Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2008
    Messages:
    2,057
    Likes Received:
    289
    Location:
    New York City
    Real Name:
    Luis
    I too consider Spielberg to be among the best contemporary film directors, not just because his film earn big box office internationally but because his films have heart and are highly entertaining. I guess some people think of his films as too sentimental to consider him a "great' director?
     
  17. Tarkin The Ewok

    Tarkin The Ewok Supporting Actor

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2004
    Messages:
    654
    Likes Received:
    0
    Taking myself as an example, I consider myself a Steven Spielberg fan, but I have never seen some of his "lesser" works like 1941, Empire of the Sun, The Color Purple, Duel, Always, etc. If I were to add Saving Private Ryan or A.I. to the list of ones I haven't seen, am I suddenly less of a Spielberg fan, or have I just not gotten around to them yet?

    Requiring someone to have seen certain films or have certain knowledge before considering them a film fan or a fan of a particular director/actor/genre is a recipe for making the hobby elitist. I think most of us here love watching films, but we haven't gotten around to everything that is considered important by everyone. By all means, let us educate and recommend, but let's not question the fandom of people who are posting on this board.
     
  18. WillG

    WillG Producer

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2003
    Messages:
    5,621
    Likes Received:
    131
    No Judgement, but if you are a Spielberg fan and have not seen Duel and Saving Private Ryan, you are doing yourself a disservice.
     
  19. Sam Favate

    Sam Favate Producer

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2004
    Messages:
    6,189
    Likes Received:
    1,069
    Real Name:
    Sam Favate
    You could get yourself in some very hot water by calling The Color Purple and Empire of the Sun "lesser works." Color Purple was nominated for several Oscars, including best picture, director, actress, supporting actress (two of them), screenplay, music, and about four more. Empire of the Sun was nominated for six Oscars.

    1941 may get slammed here and there by critics, but it's a lot of goddamned fun.
     
  20. Colin Jacobson

    Colin Jacobson Producer

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2000
    Messages:
    5,928
    Likes Received:
    498
    I don't think it's fair to make it sound like only those snooty "critics" disliked "1941". The movie DID bomb at the box office, and outside of a small cult, it's not developed a real audience.

    I adore 1975-1982 Spielberg - except for "1941", which is a bloated, unfunny mess IMO. Given my love for that era's Spielberg films, if anyone would defend "1941", it should be me. I can't: too loud, too stupid, and too blech!
     

Share This Page