is cheap universal players. I was browsing the Pioneer 563 thread and that thing quickly shot up to 10 pages in length here on the HTF. Most of the posts appeared to be from people also wanting to buy the unit at least in large part for the added hirez capability of either Super Audio or DVD Audio. I guess at a price point of $152 (gotapex) and higher, these things are selling like hotcakes. The local retailers here in Atlanta report heavy sales. With the story on LSI producing the inexpensive new fully capable DSD/DVDA chips, I think we are going to see more of this. I am starting to believe strongly that most future DVD players will be capable for both DVD Audio and Super Audio. That could really drive some big titles to be released which, in turn, will further drive sales of universal players. Perhaps the format "war" is ending with a victory on both sides. What do you think?