Well, Paramount, you blew it for HATARI! (1 Viewer)

[Robert Crawford]

Wow, quite disappointing. I really have been looking forward to this release for months (and wishing for it for years). The DVD is pretty bad so this will be some kind of improvement, I guess.

I'm still buying it as it has to be better than the DVD. I don't have the reference point of the IP print nor the high standards of Bruce, so this BD will do for now until something better comes along.

 

[Metty]

I wish I had good things to say about this Blu-ray, but alas... Color is nice (and looks NOTHING like the color in those caps above - big surprise), but there is simply no detail in the transfer - it's soft and kind of ugly-looking, and I'm here to tell you that this film in IB Technicolor was stunning, with gorgeous photography by Russell Harlan. What a shame.

FYI: There was no editing in the Pictures above! All of them are VLC Player Screenshots on the same PC.

BTW: I asked Paramount Home Entertainment Germany via e-mail about any Details of the Blu Ray.
Answer: We don´t know any details. Hatari is produced by Paramount in Los Angeles in then shipped to Germany.

 

[Mark-P]

I'm still buying it as it has to be better than the DVD. I don't have the reference point of the IP print nor the high standards of Bruce, so this BD will do for now until something better comes along.

Me too! I enjoy a lot of Blu-ray presentations that I'm told that I shouldn't.

 

[bronson]

I own the Frech blu-ray of "Hatari" and the picture quality is aweful.

But I also own the French blu-ray of "El Dorado" and the picture quality is very good.

 

[haineshisway]

I own the Frech blu-ray of "Hatari" and the picture quality is aweful.

But I also own the French blu-ray of "El Dorado" and the picture quality is very good.

It's the same transfer as the French. I'm glad people will enjoy it - I can't when I know what the film can and should look like. Believe me, all I want to do is like a transfer.

 

[haineshisway]

FYI: There was no editing in the Pictures above! All of them are VLC Player Screenshots on the same PC.

BTW: I asked Paramount Home Entertainment Germany via e-mail about any Details of the Blu Ray.
Answer: We don´t know any details. Hatari is produced by Paramount in Los Angeles in then shipped to Germany.

It doesn't really matter - I can only tell you that me looking at the screen caps on my computer (a 27-inch perfectly calibrated iMac) and me watching the film on my calibrated TV (samsung) the caps have a very greenish hue to them, which is especially evident in the sky, which should be blue not green/blue - on the Blu-ray the skies are blue not green/blue. Hence, the caps, for me, are worthless and don't tell the color story at all. Others may and can see it differently. The color is the least of this transfer's problems. This is a stunningly beautiful film in the dye transfer 35mm prints.

 

[FoxyMulder]

It doesn't really matter - I can only tell you that me looking at the screen caps on my computer (a 27-inch perfectly calibrated iMac) and me watching the film on my calibrated TV (samsung) the caps have a very greenish hue to them, which is especially evident in the sky, which should be blue not green/blue - on the Blu-ray the skies are blue not green/blue. Hence, the caps, for me, are worthless and don't tell the color story at all. Others may and can see it differently. The color is the least of this transfer's problems. This is a stunningly beautiful film in the dye transfer 35mm prints.

So perfectly calibrated you couldn't see there was zero colour difference between the Universal and Criterion editions of Charade and argued constantly with me about it in that thread, yeah okay, whatever as they say, perhaps you need to re-calibrate it.

 

[Lromero1396]

Actually, the German El Dorado is available September 25 according to Amazon.de. Hatari! and Samson & Delilah are set for October 4. So, Metty, you can inform us even earlier! The French El Dorado (released September 11) is listed as region free, so I'm sure the German will be too.

Those three discs are fixing to be my very imported titles. I hope they are all region free.

 

[haineshisway]

So perfectly calibrated you couldn't see there was zero colour difference between the Universal and Criterion editions of Charade and argued constantly with me about it in that thread, yeah okay, whatever as they say, perhaps you need to re-calibrate it.

Excuse me while I yawn. If you think the Hatari caps in any way look like what I see on my TV, well, good luck to you and I'd have to say you are completely subverting your viewing experience if these caps match what YOU see - then again, you probably don't have Hatari, so this discussion is over.

 

[Lromero1396]

This is an outrage! Paramount! Stop allowing this DNR'd crap out the door! I fear for what a domestic release may look like.

 

[haineshisway]

This is an outrage! Paramount! Stop allowing this DNR'd crap out the door! I fear for what a domestic release may look like.

I'm guessing exactly the same.

 

[AdrianTurner]

Sad to hear but perhaps to be expected. At least the DVD of Hatari! is serviceable, which is more than you can say about One-Eyed Jacks.

 

[Lromero1396]

I'm guessing exactly the same.

I'm going to catch a lot of heat for this, but I'd rather Hatari! not be released over here unless it's done right.

 

[darkrock17]

I'm going to catch a lot of heat for this, but I'd rather Hatari! not be released over here unless it's done right.

Maybe Paramount's working on a US blu as we speak, Hatari! that I know of hasn't been re-released by WB, so maybe it was one of titles that WB didn't get in The WB/Paramount distribution deal.

 

[Alan Tully]

Maybe Paramount's working on a US blu as we speak, Hatari! that I know of hasn't been re-released by WB, so maybe it was one of titles that WB didn't get in The WB/Paramount distribution deal.

I'm thinking that things must be really complicated over at Paramount with the way releases are panning out, but these releases seem to be multi-region, so if you're in America it's no big deal, just means you have to pay a bit more postage. I'm sure Hainshisway is right, these releases are it, there's not going to be any remaster for the American market...maybe a few years down the line.

 

[Matt Hough]

Seems like I remember one of the Paramount execs at last October's HTF meet tell me that they retained their John Wayne films but the Audrey Hepburns were available to Warners.

 

[darkrock17]

Seems like I remember one of the Paramount execs at last October's HTF meet tell me that they retained their John Wayne films but the Audrey Hepburns were available to Warners.

NO, don't give WB Audrey Hepburn, they'll have almost all of her film then.

 

[Mark-P]

Maybe Paramount's working on a US blu as we speak, Hatari! that I know of hasn't been re-released by WB, so maybe it was one of titles that WB didn't get in The WB/Paramount distribution deal.

But Warner did inherit distribution for this title, at least for the DVD: http://www.wbshop.com/product/hatari+1962+1000370438.do

 

[Robert Crawford]

Seems like I remember one of the Paramount execs at last October's HTF meet tell me that they retained their John Wayne films but the Audrey Hepburns were available to Warners.

Matt,

I'm not so sure about that based on my conversations with certain executives.

 

[Matt Hough]

Matt,

I'm not so sure about that based on my conversations with certain executives.

I could easily be misremembering. We talked with a great many people and it was almost a year ago (can't believe it!).