Directors ULTIMATE VILLAINS TOURNAMENT (1 Viewer)

[Ric Bagoly]

Welcome! Well a month or so ago we were forced to sit thru another silly, biased AFI list (how many songs from Sound Of Music and Singin’ In The Rain are you gonna throw in there??), I’ve decided that now we at the HTF can rectify another sorry situation when the AFI gave their top 50 Villains list last year, almost deliberately leaving off obvious choices like Al Capone, Clarence Boddicker, Norman Stansfield and The Kurrgan. Well we’re gonna rectify all that, and in doing so, I have created The Greatest List Of Movie Villains Ever Assembled. Over 1000 Villains have been gathered in the Nomination Thread to compete for one of the precious 256 competitive spots in this Tourney. So feel free to head over there to get your favorites in!

MASTER LIST

Ace Merrill-Stand By Me (Kiefer Sutherland)
Acid Queen-Tommy (Tina Turner)
Adenoid Hynkel-The Great Dictator (Charles Chaplin)
Agent Smith-Matrix Franchise (Hugo Weaving)
Alain Charnier-French Connection Franchise (Fernando Rey)
Albert Spica-The Cook, The Thief, His Wife, And Her Lover (Michael Gambon)
Al Capone-The Untouchables (Robert DeNiro)
Alex DeLarge-A Clockwork Orange (Malcolm McDowell)
Alex Forrest-Fatal Attraction (Fatal Attraction)
Alien-Alien Franchise (Various)
Alonzo Harris-Training Day (Denzel Washington)
Amon Goeth-Schindler's List (Ralph Fiennes)
Angela Baker-Sleepaway Camp Franchise (Felissa Rose / Pamela Springsteen)
Angel Eyes Sentenza-The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly (Lee Van Cleef)
Annie Wilkes-Misery (Kathy Bates)
Antonio Salieri-Amadeus (F. Murray Abraham)
Apollo Creed-Rocky 1 and 2 (Carl Weathers)
Archibald Cunningham-Rob Roy (Tim Roth)
Audrey II-Little Shop Of Horrors (Levi Stubbs)
Auric Goldfinger-Goldfinger (Gert Frobe)
Baby Jane Hudson-Whatever Happened To Baby Jane? (Bette Davis)
Belial Bradley-Basket Case Franchise (Various)
Bert Gordon-The Hustler (George C. Scott)
Betelgeuse-Beetlejuice (Michael Keaton)
Biff Tannen-Back To The Future Franchise (Thomas F. Wilson)
Big Boy Caprice-Dick Tracy (Al Pacino)
Blob-The Blob (Blob)
Bobby Peru-Wild At Heart (Willem Dafoe)
Bobby Thompson-Targets (Tim O'Kelly)
Bob Wolvington-Freeway (Kiefer Sutherland)
Bohdi-Point Break (Patrick Swayze)
Boris Lermontov-The Red Shoes (Anton Walbrook)
Brewmeister Smith-Strange Brew (Max Von Sydow)
Buddy Revell-Three O'Clock High (Richard Tyson)
Butch Haynes-A Perfect World (Kevin Costner)
Candyman-Candyman Franchise (Tony Todd)
Captain Barboza-Pirates Of The Caribbean (Geoffery Rush)
Captain Hank Quinlan-Touch Of Evil (Orson Welles)
Captain Morton-Mister Roberts (James Cagney)
Captain William Bligh-Mutiny On The Bounty (Charles Laughton)
Captain Wolf Larsen-The Sea Wolf (Edward G. Robinson)
Castor Troy-Face-Off (Nicholas Cage / John Travolta)
Catwoman a.k.a. Selina Kyle-Batman Returns (Michelle Pffeifer)
Chad-In The Company Of Men (Aaron Eckhart)
Chains Cooper-Stone Cold (Lance Henriksen)
Charles Foster Kane-Citizen Kane (Orson Welles)
Charlton Heston-Bowling For Columbine (Charlton Heston)
Chet Donnally-Weird Science (Bill Paxton)
Chief Inspector Dreyfus-Pink Panther Franchise (Herbert Lom)
Chong Li-Bloodsport (Bolo Yeung)
Christof-The Truman Show (Ed Harris)
Claire Quilty-Lolita (Peter Sellers)
Clarence Boddicker-Robocop (Kurtwood Smith)
Clubber Lang-Rocky 3 (Mr. T)
Cody Jarrett-White Heat (James Cagney)
Col. Frank Fitts, U.S.M.C.-American Beauty (Chris Cooper)
Collector-Tales From The Crypt: Demon Knight (Billy Zane)
Col. Nathan Jessup-A Few Good Men (Jack Nicholson)
Col. Walter E. Kurtz-Apocalypse Now (Marlon Brando)
Count Dooku-Attack Of The Clones (Christopher Lee)
Count Dracula-Dracula Franchise (Bela Lugosi / Various)
Craig Swartz-Being John Malkovich (John Cusack / John Malkovich)
Curly Bill Brocius-Tombstone (Powers Boothe)
Damian Thorn-Omen Franchise (Various)
Damon Killian-The Running Man (Richard Dawson)
Dark Helmet-Spaceballs (Rick Moranis)
Darth Maul-Phantom Menace (Ray Park)
Darth Vader-Star Wars Franchise (David Prowse / James Earl Jones)
Dean Vernon Wormer-Animal House (John Vernon)
Death-The Seventh Seal (Bengt Ekerot)
Det. Jimmy Shaker-Ransom (Gary Sinise)
Diana Christensen-Network (Faye Dunaway)
Doc Hawkins-Surviving The Game (Gary Busey)
Don Lope De Aguirre-Aguirre: The Wrath Of God (Klaus Kinski)
Dr. Anton Phibes-Dr. Phibes Franchise (Vincent Price)
Dr. Christian Szell-Marathon Man (Laurence Olivier)
Dr. Emilio Lizardo a.k.a. Lord John Whorfin-Adventures Of Buckaroo Banzai (John Lithgow)
Dr. Evil-Austin Powers Franchise (Mike Myers)
Drexl Spivey-True Romance (Gary Oldman)
Dr. Hannibal "The Cannibal" Lecter-Hannibal Franchise (Anthony Hopkins)
Dr. Mabuse-Dr. Mabuse Franchise (Rudolf Klein-Rogge)
Dr. Noah a.k.a. Jimmy Bond-Casino Royale (Woody Allen)
Dr. Septimus Praetorius-Bride Of Frankenstein (Ernest Thesiger)
Dr. Strangelove-Dr. Strangelove Or, How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love The Bomb (Peter Sellers)
Duke-Moulin Rouge (Richard Roxburgh)
Duke Of New York-Escape From New York (Isaac Hayes)
Earl Talbott Blake-Ricochet (John Lithgow)
Eli Cross-The Stunt Man (Peter O'Toole)
Elijah Price a.k.a. Mr. Glass-Unbreakable (Samuel L. Jackson)
Emperor Commodus-Gladiator (Joaquim Phoenix)
Emperor Ming The Merciless-Flash Gordon (Max Von Sydow)
Emperor Palpatine-Star Wars Franchise (Ian McDiarmid)
Eric "Rick" Masters-To Live And Die In LA (Willem Dafoe)
Ernie "Big Ern" McCracken-Kingpin (Bill Murray)
Ernst Stravro Blofeld-James Bond Franchise (Various)
Eve Harrington-All About Eve (Anne Baxter)
Evil Ash-Evil Dead 2 / Army Of Darkness (Bruce Campbell)
Frank-Once Upon A Time In The West (Henry Fonda)
Frank Booth-Blue Velvet (Dennis Hopper)
Frank Hobbs-Tommy (Oliver Reed)
Franz Beckert-M (Peter Lorre)
Freddy Krueger-Nightmare On Elm Street Franchise (Robert Englund)
Frederick A. Polawatski a.k.a. Ogre-Revenge Of The Nerds Franchise (Donald Gibb)
Fred O'Bannion-Dazed And Confused (Ben Affleck)
General Bethelhem-The Postman (Will Patton)
General Francis Xavier Hummel-The Rock (Ed Harris)
General Paul Mireau-Paths Of Glory (George Macready)
General Zod-Superman Franchise (Terence Stamp)
Ghostface a.k.a. ???-Scream Franchise (Various)
Gordon Gekko-Wall Street (Michael Douglas)
Graf Orlock-Nosferatu (Max Schreck)
Green Goblin a.k.a. Norman Osbourne-Spiderman (Willem Dafoe)
Greg Stillson-The Dead Zone (Martin Sheen)
HAL-9000-2001: A Space Odyssey (Douglas Rain)
Hamidou-Midnight Express (Paul Smith)
Han-Enter The Dragon (Kien Shih)
Hans Gruber-Die Hard (Alan Rickman)
Harry Lime-The Third Man (Orson Welles)
Hedley Lamarr-Blazing Saddles (Harvey Korman)
Hjalmar Poelzig-The Black Cat (Boris Karloff)
Horace Pinker-Shocker (Mitch Pileggi)
Ivan Drago-Rocky 4 (Dolph Lundgren)
Jackal-The Jackal (Edward Fox / Bruce Willis)
Jack Hyde-Edge Of Sanity (Anthony Perkins)
Jack Scagnetti-Natural Born Killers (Tom Sizemore)
Jack Torrance-The Shining (Jack Nicholson)
Jack Wilson-Shane (Jack Palance)
Jame Gumb a.k.a. Buffalo Bill-Silence Of The Lambs (Ted Levine)
Jason Dean-Heathers (Christian Slater)
Jason Voorhees-Friday The 13th Franchise (Various)
Jaws-Jaws Franchise (The Shark)
Jerry Dandridge-Fright Night (Chris Sarandon)
Jerry Lundegaard-Fargo (William H. Macy)
Jesus Quintana-The Big Lebowski (John Turturro)
Jim McAllister-Election (Matthew Broderick)
J.J. Hunsecker-Sweet Smell Of Success (Burt Lancaster)
Joan Crawford-Mommie Dearest (Faye Dunaway)
John Doe-Se7en (Kevin Spacey)
John Kreese-The Karate Kid (Martin Kove)
John Milton-The Devil's Advocate (Al Pacino)
Johnny Friendly-On The Waterfront (Lee J. Cobb)
Johnny Ringo-Tombstone (Michael Biehn)
John Ryder-The Hitcher (Rutger Hauer)
Joker a.k.a. Jack Napier-Batman (Jack Nicholson)
Jonathan Brewster-Arsenic And Old Lace (Raymond Massey)
Judge Claude Frollo-The Hunchback Of Notre Dame (Tony Jay)
Judge Doom-Who Framed Roger Rabbit (Christopher Lloyd)
Judge Smails-Caddyshack (Ted Knight)
Kaiser Soze-The Usual Suspects (???)
Kasper Gutman-The Maltese Falcon (Sydney Greenstreet)
Khan Noonian Singh-Star Trek 2 (Ricardo Montalban)
Killer Rabbit-Monty Python And The Holy Grail (Killer Rabbit)
Kurrgan a.k.a. Victor Krueger-Highlander (Clancy Brown)
Leatherface-Texas Chainsaw Massacre Franchise (Gunnar Hansen / Various)
Leland Palmer a.k.a. BOB-Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me (Ray Wise / Frank Silva)
Leonard Smalls-Raising Arizona (Randall "Tex" Cobb)
Lestat De Lioncourt-Interview With The Vampire (Tom Cruise)
Lex Luthor-Superman Franchise (Gene Hackman)
Liberty Valance-The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (Lee Marvin)
Little Bill Daggett-Unforgiven (Gene Hackman)
Louis Cyphere-Angel Heart (Robert DeNiro)
Lt. Comdr Phillip Francis Queeg-The Caine Mutiny (Humphrey Bogart)
Machine Gun Joe Viterbo-Death Race 2000 (Sylvester Stallone)
Magneto a.k.a. Erik Lehnsherr-X-Men Franchise (Ian McKellan)
Magua-Last Of The Mohicans (Wes Studi)
Major Frank Burns-MASH (Robert Duvall)
Major Heinrich Strasser-Casablanca (Conrad Veidt)
Man (Daddy)-The People Under The Stairs (Everett McGill)
Marquise De Merteuil-Dangerous Liaisons (Glenn Close)
Max Cady-Cape Fear (Robert Mitchum / Robert DeNiro)
Melvin Moody-My Bodyguard (Matt Dillon)
Messala-Ben-Hur (Stephen Boyd)
Michael Corleone-Godfather Franchise (Al Pacino)
Michael Myers-Halloween Franchise (Various)
Mitch Leary-In The Line Of Fire (John Malkovich)
Mola Ram-Indiana Jones And The Temple Of Doom (Amrish Puri)
Montgomery-Island Of Dr. Moreau (Val Kilmer)
Morgana-Excalibur (Helen Mirren)
Mother Superior-Silent Night Deadly Night (Lilyan Chauvin)
Mr. Blonde a.k.a. Vic Vega-Reservoir Dogs (Michael Madsen)
Mr. Hand-Fast Times At Ridgemont High (Ray Walston)
Mr. Joshua-Lethal Weapon (Gary Busey)
Mr. Lincoln-Waxwork (David Warner)
Mr. Potter-It's A Wonderful Life (Lionel Barrymore)
Mrs. Danvers-Rebecca (Judith Anderson)
Mrs. John Iselin-The Manchurian Candidate (Angela Lansbury)
Mrs. Robinson-The Graduate (Anne Bancroft)
Mr. Scratch-The Devil And Daniel Webster (Walter Huston)
Mystery Man-Lost Highway (Robert Blake)
Neil Macaulay-Heat (Robert DeNiro)
Nino Brown-New Jack City (Wesley Snipes)
Noah Cross-Chinatown (John Huston)
Norma Desmond-Sunset Boulevard (Gloria Swanson)
Norman Bates-Psycho Franchise (Anthony Perkins)
Norman Stansfield-Leon: The Professional (Gary Oldman)
Nurse Mildred Ratched-One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest (Louise Fletcher)
Oddjob-Goldfinger (Harold Sakata)
Ordell Robbie-Jackie Brown (Samuel L. Jackson)
Otto Meyer-It's A Mad Mad Mad Mad World (Phil Silvers)
Otto West-A Fish Called Wanda (Kevin Kline)
Pat Healy-There's Something About Mary (Matt Dillon)
Pazuzu-The Exorcist (Mercedes McCambridge)
Peter Stegman-Class Of 1984 (Timothy Van Patten)
Phantom a.k.a. Erik Destler-Phantom Of The Opera (Lon Chaney / Various)
Phillip Vandamm-North By Northwest (James Mason)
Phyllis Dietrichson-Double Indemmity (Barbara Stanwyck)
Pinhead a.k.a. Captain Elliot Spencer-Hellraiser Franchise (Doug Bradley)
Predator-Predator Franchise (Kevin Peter Hall)
Pres. George W. Bush-Fahrenheit 9/11 (Pres. George W. Bush)
Principal Edward Rooney-Ferris Bueller's Day Off (Jeffery Jones)
Principal Richard Vernon-The Breakfast Club (Paul Gleason)
Professor Jerry Hathaway-Real Genius (William Atherton)
Randall Flagg-The Stand (Jamey Sheridan)
Ray "Bones" Barboni-Get Shorty (Dennis Farina)
Reinhardt "Eric" Wulfgar-Nighthawks (Rutger Hauer)
Rev. Harry Powell-Night Of The Hunter (Robert Mitchum)
Rhoda Penmark-The Bad Seed (Patty McCormick)
Richter-Total Recall (Michael Ironside)
Riff-Raff-The Rocky Horror Picture Show (Richard O'Brien)
Roger Smith-Roger And Me (Roger Smith)
Roy Batty-Blade Runner (Rutger Hauer)
Roy L. Fuchs-Used Cars (Jack Warden)
Saddam Hussein-South Park: Bigger, Longer, And Uncut (Saddam Hussein)
Sammi Curr-Trick Or Treat (Tony Fields)
Sam Stone-Ruthless People (Danny DeVito)
Sauron-Lord Of The Rings Franchise (Sala Baker)
Scorpio Killer-Dirty Harry (Andrew Robinson)
Sgt. Bob Barnes-Platoon (Tom Berenger)
Sgt. James "Fatso" Judson-From Here To Eternity (Ernest Borgnine)
Sgt. Stedanko-Up In Smoke / Nice Dreams (Stacy Keach)
Sheriff Of Nottingham-Robin Hood: Prince Of Thieves (Alan Rickman)
Sheriff Will Teasle-First Blood (Brian Dennehy)
Shooter McGavin-Happy Gilmore (Christopher McDonald)
Sport a.k.a. Matthew-Taxi Driver (Harvey Keitel)
Sutter Kane-In The Mouth Of Madness (Jurgen Prochnow)
Swan-Phantom Of The Paradise (Paul Williams)
T-1000-Terminator 2 (Robert Patrick)
Tall Man-Phantasm Franchise (Angus Scrimm)
Terminator-The Terminator (Arnold Schwarzenegger)
Thing-The Thing (Various)
Thulsa Doom-Conan The Barbarian (James Earl Jones)
Toecutter-Mad Max (Hugh Keays-Byrne)
Toht-Raiders Of The Lost Ark (Ronald Lacey)
Tommy DeVito-Goodfellas (Joe Pesci)
Tony Montana-Scarface (Al Pacino)
Top Dollar-The Crow (Michael Wincott)
Tyler Durden-Fight Club (Brad Pitt)
Uncle Charlie Oakley-Shadow Of A Doubt (Joseph Cotton)
Walter Peck-Ghostbusters (William Atherton)
Warden Samuel Norton-The Shawshank Redemption (Bob Gunton)
Warlock-Warlock Franchise (Julian Sands)
Wez-The Road Warrior (Vernon Welles)
Wicked Witch Of The West-The Wizard Of Oz (Margaret Hamilton)
William "Bill The Butcher" Cutting-Gangs Of New York (Daniel Day-Lewis)
Vincenzo Cocchotti-True Romance (Christopher Walken)
Zed-Pulp Fiction (Peter Greene)

 

[Bill Williams]

More top villain picks to consider:

Darth Vader, the original "Star Wars" (1977)
Hannibal Lecter, in "The Silence of the Lambs" (1990)
Norman Bates, in the original "Psycho" (1960)
The Joker, "Batman" (1989)
the Alien, from the first "Alien" film (1979)
the Terminator, from the first "Terminator" film (1984)
Commodus, from "Gladiator" (2000)
Khan Noonien Singh, from "Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan" (1982)
Sauron, from the "Lord of the Rings" trilogy (2001-2003)

 

[Ric Bagoly]

Okay! We have our 256 competitors in place and the Tourney shall be kicking off tomorrow night! Hope to see you there!

 

[Ric Bagoly]

Alright the official start time will be about 11:30 Tuesday night, in order to give everyone the chance to get back from their Labor Day commitments. In the meantime here are the voting rules:

1. In selecting your pick of a Villain in a given matchup, you may vote for the better performance, who would win in a fight, who has a better wardrobe----IT DOESN'T MATTER. Go with your heart.

2. If you have not seen both movies in a given matchup, please abstain. If you have only seen one movie in a Villain's franchise, then it is okay to vote. Example: If the only Friday The 13th movie you've seen is Part 6: Jason Lives, then you are eligible to vote for Jason Voorhees.

3. The Tourney Master (me) will vote in every matchup, but in case of a tie, my vote will be withdrawn so as not to drag things out.

4. As stated before, this is a character-based tournament. When, for example, Count Dracula competes, you can vote for the Bela Lugosi version, the Christopher Lee version, the Gary Oldman version, or whatever one you like best.

5. Finally, have fun and enjoy yourselves, as hopefully people will want to seek out certain Villain's films that they've never seen(which is really what these tourneys are all about!)

 

[Ric Bagoly]

And now ladies and gentlemen,

LLLLLLet’s get ready to rumble!!!!!!!!

Introducing first,

Bracket 1 Match 1

“If there’s something strange, In The Neighborhood,
Who ya gonna call?”


“Everything was fine with our system until the power grid was shut off by dickless here.”

“They caused the explosion!”

“Is this true?”

Walter Peck-Ghostbusters (William Atherton)
“Yes it’s true. This man has no dick.”



vs.



“Who are you then? Just another American who saw too many movies as a child? Another orphan of a bankrupt culture who thinks he’s Rambo, John Wayne, Marshall Dillon?”

“I always had a thing for Roy Rogers myself. I really dug those sequined shirts.”

Hans Gruber-Die Hard (Alan Rickman)
“Do you really think you have a chance against us, Mr. Cowboy?”

Ric’s Pick : Hans Gruber


Match 2


“Burn baby burning. Disco Inferno!”


“It all comes down to this roll. Roy Munson, a man-child, with a dream to topple bowling giant Ernie McCracken. If he strikes, he's the 1979 Odor-Eaters Champion. He's got one foot in the frying pan and one in the pressure cooker. Believe me, as a bowler, I know that right about now, your bladder feels like an overstuffed vacuum cleaner bag and your butt is kinda like an about-to-explode bratwurst.”

“Hey. Do you mind? I wasn't talking when you were bowling.”

Ernie “Big Ern” McCracken-Kingpin (Bill Murray)
“Was I talking out loud? Was I? Sorry. Good luck.”



vs.



“A few weeks ago I had the good providence to stumble upon a plan of the city council. A construction plan of epic proportions. We're calling it a freeway.”

“Freeway? What the hell's a freeway?”

“Eight lanes of shimmering cement running from here to Pasadena. Smooth, safe, fast. Traffic jams will be a thing of the past.”

“So that's why you killed Acme and Maroon? For this freeway? I don't get it.”

Judge Doom-Who Framed Roger Rabbit (Christopher Lloyd)
“Of course not. You lack vision, but I see a place where people get on and off the freeway. On and off, off and on all day, all night. Soon, where Toon Town once stood will be a string of gas stations, inexpensive motels, restaurants that serve rapidly prepared food. Tire salons, automobile dealerships and wonderful, wonderful billboards reaching as far as the eye can see. My God, it'll be beautiful.”

Ric’s Pick: Ernie “Big Ern” McCracken

 

[Brook K]

Hans Gruber
Ernie “Big Ern” McCracken

 

[Nick Sievers]

Hans Gruber
Ernie “Big Ern” McCracken

 

[george kaplan]

Hans Gruber

Judge Doom

 

[Justin_S]

Hans Gruber
Ernie “Big Ern” McCracken

 

[Bill McA]

Hans Gruber-Die Hard (Alan Rickman)
Ernie “Big Ern” McCracken -Kingpin (Bill Murray)

 

[SteveGon]

Gruber & Doom

 

[Lew Crippen]

Hans Gruber

 

[Bill Williams]

Hans Gruber

Judge Doom

 

[Steeve Bergeron]

Hans Gruber

 

[ErikG]

Gruber
McCracken

 

[John C. Wilson]

Hans Gruber
Judge Doom

 

[Ric Bagoly]

Final Scores:

Hans Gruber-12
Walter Peck-0

Ernie "Big Ern" McCracken-6
Judge Doom-4

Bracket 2 Match 3


“Why don’t you just face it? I’m God now.”

“God’s not supposed to be some hack horror writer.”

“Well, we’ll see about that. Look around when you wake up.”

Sutter Kane-In The Mouth Of Madness (Jurgen Prochnow)
“Did I ever tell you my favorite color was blue?”



vs.



“What??”

“They got the shipment!”

“They what?”

“They got the whole shipment!”

“I want that son of a bitch dead! What am I, alone in this world? Am I asking you what you’re trying to do?”

Al Capone-The Untouchables (Robert DeNiro)
“I want you to get this fuck where he breathes! I want you to find this fancy-boy Elliot Ness, I want him dead! I want his family dead! I want his house burned to the ground! I want to go there in the middle of the night and piss on his ashes!”

Ric’s Pick: Al Capone


Match 4


“Fellas. I'm glad you're here. Look, I need your help. Here's what happened. I had this blowout. I think there's a spare in the back. It may be a little flat. Take a look at it will you kid? Is there an airport anyplace around here? Look, if the spare is flat don't bother fixing it. Gimme a new tire, alright? You ain't got a new tire? Then you'll have to fix the spare. But don't look at me. Move it, will you kid? You, you could be gassing up while he's working. What is it a staring contest? Come on!”

(claps his hands together)

Otto Meyer-It’s A Mad Mad Mad Mad World (Phil Silvers)
“Move! Move, will you kid? Come on!”



vs.



“I've seen horrors... horrors that you've seen. But you have no right to call me a murderer. You have a right to kill me. You have a right to do that... but you have no right to judge me. It's impossible for words to describe what is necessary to those who do not know what horror means. Horror. Horror has a face... and you must make a friend of horror. Horror and moral terror are your friends. If they are not then they are enemies to be feared. They are truly enemies. I remember when I was with Special Forces. Seems a thousand centuries ago. We went into a camp to inoculate the children. We left the camp after we had inoculated the children for Polio, and this old man came running after us and he was crying. He couldn't see. We went back there and they had come and hacked off every inoculated arm. There they were in a pile. A pile of little arms. And I remember... I... I... I cried. I wept like some grandmother. I wanted to tear my teeth out. I didn't know what I wanted to do. And I want to remember it. I never want to forget it. I never want to forget. And then I realized... like I was shot... like I was shot with a diamond... a diamond bullet right through my forehead. And I thought: My God... the genius of that. The genius. The will to do that. Perfect, genuine, complete, crystalline, pure. And then I realized they were stronger than we. Because they could stand that these were not monsters. These were men... trained cadres. These men who fought with their hearts, who had families, who had children, who were filled with love... but they had the strength... the strength... to do that. If I had ten divisions of those men our troubles here would be over very quickly.”

Col. Walter E. Kurtz-Apocalypse Now (Marlon Brando)
“You have to have men who are moral... and at the same time who are able to utilize their primordial instincts to kill without feeling... without passion... without judgment... without judgment. Because it's judgment that defeats us.

Ric’s Pick: Col. Walter E. Kurtz

 

[Justin_S]

Sutter Cane
Col. Walter E. Kurtz

 

[george kaplan]

abstain

Otto Meyer

 

[ErikG]

Cane
Kurtz