As the thread title says, I'm a bit torn between some receivers from these two companies. Specifically I'm debating between Onkyo's TX-SR501, TX-SR601 (maybe), Pioneer's VSX-D812K, VSX-D912K (another maybe), and their newly released VSX-D814K. My budget's around $300 but staying under that figure would be nice. The reason I'm torn is because of all the mixed reviews I've seen. I tend to do as much research as I can before plunking down the cash for something like this. However, I can't seem to decide on which one would suit me best. Right now I have a Kenwood receiver (VR-615) that's rated at 100x6. I'm sure it's pretty overrated though in that regard. Right now it powers all five of my JBL speakers (JBL NSP1II) and partially powers my suboowfer (Dayton 10"). It works pretty well, at least for my 10'x12' room. What I want out of an upgrade is better sound and better power (more of it and cleaner). What I'm reading is that the Onkyo's are somewhat conservatively rated and can often output a little more than their rating when asked to. Supposedly they should sound pretty good as well. The Pioneer's are rated much higher and should be able to ouput at least near that rating. CNET seems to like the Pioneer's over the Onkyo's. Whatever I get it's going to need room for future upgrades and possibly a larger space. Honestly, I think I'm leaning the most toward the VSX-D814K. It's got the same power as the 812 but it also includes 192KHz/24-bit DAC's instead of 96KHz/24-bit. If anyone wants to chime in with suggestions or advice I'd greatly appreciate it!