The truth revealed (formerly "Now an entire subplot of OCEANS ELEVEN is being cut! ") (1 Viewer)

[Michael Reuben]

I guess this explains it:

It doesn't explain it any better than the first time that newstory was quoted -- on the first page of this thread.

M.

 

[Edwin Pereyra]

(emphasis mine).

If I remember correctly, the casino imploded was the Desert Inn, which was not a fictional casino.
~Edwin

 

[Eric Thrall]

The casino imploded in Ocean's Eleven was called the Xanadu - I don't know if they used the actual footage of the Desert Inn being destroyed or not, but I doubt it. According to Vegas4Visitors, the main tower of the Desert Inn wasn't imploded until October, so I don't think they would have planned on filming it and putting it in the movie between the two events. I suspect it was an effects shot.

 

[MichaelPe]

It doesn't explain it any better than the first time that newstory was quoted -- on the first page of this thread.

Sorry about that... I hadn't read the first page of this thread since October. :b

 

[DaveBB]

If it was the New York, New York Casino that was originally imploded and was replaced with the fictional Xanadu; then no problem by me.

If I remember correctly, the casino imploded was the Desert Inn, which was not a fictional casino.

I don't think that was the Desert Inn. I've only been to Vegas once but the Desert Inn was one of the older, smaller style hotels. The Xanadu looked like one of the new bigger mega-hotels. It also looked like CGI. (I'm not saying they couldn't have taken a real building and dressed it up.)

 

[Seth Paxton]

Well, in some ways this would be a perfect example of life's restrictions helping your art out (which is why I always go off about revisionism).
Considering the relative newness of NY,NY, how well known the new casino is, and the habit of wiping out older casinos for something JUST LIKE NY,NY, I'd say it works better as shown.
While it appeared taller than really older casinos and perhaps the Desert Inn, it still didn't look like Paris, Venitian, Luxor, Bellagio, (new)Ceasars, Treasure Island getting toasted.
Okay, it did look a bit like part of TIsland. but still.
Clearly, NYNY would not appear like any old casino that an old-school vegas owner would have owned, so I think it plays better as not being NYNY.
If this is what happened (and it appears that it might be).
Now we need the freakin DVD with featurette on this subject.

 

[Michael Reuben]

You've summed it up nicely, Seth. But it still ain't no "subplot".
M.

 

[Michael Reuben]

Coming back to this subject one last time.

Now we need the freakin DVD with featurette on this subject.

Surprise, surprise. You have to be paying attention, but the answer is there on the DVD's "behind the scenes" featurette.
Near the end of the featurette, there are a few shots of the demolition sequence. Watch closely for (a) the scene outside the windows behind Don Cheadle, and (b) the reverse angle on the TV that he's watching. Now compare the same scenes in the finished film. The footage in the featurette plainly shows a different casino being demolished. Having never seen NY, NY in Vegas, I can't be sure, but that sure looks like a piece of the New York skyline collapsing.
Subplot, shmubplot. Looks like all that was replaced was a few CG effects.
M.

 

[William Ward]

My question is why Don Cheadle was left out of the credits.....

 

[Dennis Heller]

William,
Check the story about 3/4 of the way down
http://www.suntimes.com/output/answ-...y-ebert05.html