The next AFI 100 Years...100 (fill-in-the-blank) is...

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  1. John Kilduff

    John Kilduff Screenwriter

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    "AFI's 100 Years...100 Heroes & Villains".
    Instead of doing genres, this time, it's the 2 character types that make up most every movie ever released.
    More information is in the press release section of http://www.afi.com/
    Sincerely,
    John Kilduff...
    This is going to be an odd one.
     
  2. Thi Them

    Thi Them Producer

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    This should be very interesting.

    ~T
     
  3. Thi Them

    Thi Them Producer

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    I'd like to remind everyone that the special is on tomorrow night.

    Best Hero: George Bailey or T.E. Lawrence
    Best Villain: Michael Corleone or HAL 9000

    ~T
     
  4. Kirk Tsai

    Kirk Tsai Screenwriter

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    Thanks Thi. These lists might not mean much, but it's sort of cool to see clips we love here and there.

    My guesses are Judah Ben-Hur and Darth Vader.
     
  5. Josh Dial

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    Darth Vader for sure.

    cheers!

    Josh
     
  6. Adam Lenhardt

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    Christopher Reeve as Superman!
     
  7. MatthewA

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    The next list should be 100 Years, 100 AFI Lists.
     
  8. MatthewLouwrens

    MatthewLouwrens Producer

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    The list of nominations:
    in PDF
    in MSWord
    Glancing through quickly, I a couple of things come to mind:
    * Why is Darth Vader (#368) listed for Empire, with Star Wars merits only a 'Also appears in'?
    * Why give 'Also appears in' credit where the same character appears in re-makes or unrelated films - is the "Frollo" from the 1939 Hunchback the same as in the Disney films? Is Vince Vaughn's Norman Bates the same as Anthony Perkins? Is the 1931 Universal "Henry Frankenstein" the same as Branagh's "Victor Frankenstein"? Is Michael Keaton's Batman the same as Adam West's?
    * Glad to see Marge Gunderson in the list. Hope she makes it into the Top 100.
     
  9. Scott Weinberg

    Scott Weinberg Lead Actor

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    As much as I inevitably end up hating these lists...I always watch the damn shows. [​IMG]
    I recently bought the first issue of the new "Maxim at the Movies" magazine (definitely worth the 5 bucks IMO) and it had a very entertaining list:
    "The 50 Greatest Movie Villains of All-Time"
    Since each of their choices comes with a paragraph of explanation, I thought it'd be OK to share their roster with you. Fairly impressive choices!
    50. Xenia Onatopp (Famke Janssen) - Goldeneye
    49. Patrick Bateman (Christian Bale) - American Psycho
    48. Darryl Revok (Michael Ironside) - Scanners
    47. "The Entire Friggin' House" - Poltergeist
    46. John Ryder (Rutger Hauer) - The Hitcher
    45. Darth Vader (Jones & Prowse) - Star Wars
    44. Jason Voorhees (Ari Lehman) - Friday the 13th
    43. Cruella De Vil (Betty Lou Gerson) - 101 Dalmatians
    42. Hal 9000 (Douglas Rain) - 2001: A Space Odyssey
    41. Norman Stansfield (Gary Oldman) - The Professional
    40. Emperor Commodus (Joaquin Phoenix) - Gladiator
    39. Nurse Ratched (Louise Fletcher) - One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
    38. Max Cady (Robert Mitchum) - Cape Fear
    37. Sil (Natasha Henstridge) - Species
    36. Leatherface (Gunnar Hansen) - The Texas Chainsaw Massacre
    35. The Truck Driver (Carey Loftin) - Duel
    34. Saruman (Christopher Lee) - The Lord of the Rings
    33. Auric Goldfinger (Gert Frobe) - Goldfinger
    32. Vincenzo Coccotti (Christopher Walken) - True Romance
    31. Annie Wilkes (Kathy Bates) - Misery
    30. Christian Szell (Laurence Olivier) - Marathon Man
    29. Don Logan (Ben Kingsley) - Sexy Beast
    28. Bill Lumbergh (Gary Cole) - Office Space
    27. Norman Bates (Anthony Perkins) - Psycho
    26. "The Bad" (Lee Van Cleef) - The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
    25. Alien Queen (Stan Winston, creator) - Aliens
    24. Judge Smails (Ted Knight) - Caddyshack
    23. Buffalo Bill (Ted Levine) - The Silence of the Lambs
    22. Tommy Udo (Richard Widmark) - Kiss of Death
    21. Frank Booth (Dennis Hopper) - Blue Velvet
    20. The Shark (Robert A. Mattey, creator) - Jaws
    19. Jack Torrance (Jack Nicholson) - The Shining
    18. Agent Smith (Hugo Weaving) - The Matrix
    17. Al Capone (Robert De Niro) - The Untouchables
    16. The Predator (Kevin Peter Hall) - Predator
    15. Count Dracula (Bela Lugosi) - Dracula
    14. Mr. Joshua (Gary Busey) - Lethal Weapon
    13. Brig. Gen. Jack D. Ripper (Sterling Hayden) - Dr. Strangelove
    12. Alex Forrest (Glenn Close) - Fatal Attraction
    11. Verbal Kint (Kevin Spacey) - The Usual Suspects
    10. Hannibal Lecter (Anthony Hopkins) - The Silence of the Lambs
    9. Bridget Gregory (Linda Fiorentino) - The Last Seduction
    8. Dean Wormer (John Vernon) - Animal House
    7. Bill the Butcher (Daniel Day-Lewis) - Gangs of New York
    6. Freddy Krueger (Robert Englund) - A Nightmare on Elm Street
    5. Tommy Devito (Joe Pesci) - Goodfellas
    4. The Terminator (Arnold Schwarzenegger) - The Terminator
    3. Mrs. Iselin (Angela Lansbury) - The Manchurian Candidate
    2. Mr. Blonde (Michael Madsen) - Reservoir Dogs
    1. The Two Mountain Men (Bill McKinney & Herbert Coward) - Deliverance
     
  10. Walter Kittel

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    No Frank ( Henry Fonda ) from Once Upon A Time In The West or Rev. Harry Powell ( Robert Mitchum ) from Night of the Hunter? Kinda knocks the list down, IMHO, but regardless thanks Scott for going to the effort of posting. I am impressed that Tommy Udo made the list on the other hand.
    All joking aside it is a decent list, but whomever put that list together must have some "issues" if the practically anonymous hillbillies of Deliverance make the #1 spot. [​IMG]
    - Walter.
     
  11. Scott Weinberg

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    No prob, W. I live to talk movies.

    I had a few problems with this list as well (Michael Meyers anyone???) but it was great that they included the truly scary version of Max Cady...and their #3 is an impressive call!
     
  12. Mark Zimmer

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    I really hope Alfred Hitchcock's "The Birds" makes it on to the AFI list. All other screen villains can ultimately be defeated, with a bullet, a stake through the heart, an exorcism, etc. All except ... THE BIRDS!

    --Bill
     
  14. Adam_S

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    Does anyone else wonder if AFI will try to pull a Sound and Spirit and update the original list in 2006? [​IMG]
    Adam
     
  15. Lew Crippen

    Lew Crippen Executive Producer

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    I saw at least one villains list that had Rodger Smith from Rodger and Me as a selection. [​IMG]
     
  16. Holadem

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    Ouch, I had forgotten about this. It's already 9PM, I will wait for the USA network broadcast on the 23...

    BTW, isn't there a high potential of spoiler on this show?

    --
    Holadem
     
  17. Malcolm R

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    Yes [​IMG]
     
  18. Doug R

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    Is the final list somewhere?

    thanks!
     
  19. ThomasC

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    The top three villains:

    #3: Darth Vader
    #2: Norman Bates
    #1: Hannibal Lecter

    The top three heroes:

    #3: James Bond
    #2: Indiana Jones
    #1: Atticus Finch
     
  20. John Thomas

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    Overall, I'd agree except with the #1 choices. Definitely not what I'd pick.
     

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