The new "Battlestar Galactica TV series" (1 Viewer)

[Jeff Kleist]

The cloven hoof footage was never shot. I've confirmed that with all 3 actors. If you've seen footage, it was faked. YES that's what was supposed to be in the crashed ship, but it was never shot, nor intended to be shown. I believe the ABC Censors nixed it, and they felt in the end that it was the whole "don't see the monster" thing.

My second question is do you know how much footage exactly was filmed for the pilot (i.e. The Serina cut scenes, Cassiopia's death on Carillon? Longer extended scenes of the destruction of the colonies!, extended scenes of Starbuck and Athena on the Galactica bridge? and the Carillon bar! scenes)

I don't know specifics, no one I talked to has been in the archives at Universal lately, so it's really unknown how much has survived. You'll never see that Jane Seymour footage even if it has survived. She hated Galactica (even though apparently she wore her wedding dress from "Lost Planet of the Gods" to her kid's birthday during "Dr. Quinn". Jean-Pierre Dorleac was apparently quite relieved that the dress had survived, as he was pretty proud of it). Then again, she might just say "what the heck" and take the residual check they would involve.

I do know that if they ever do an SE, most people want, and so do the actors for them to assemble a "director's cut" containing all of the additional footage from the movie version. (Which was shot 1.33:1, protecting for 1.85:1 for foreign theatrical release, so both ARs are valid). I'm sure they shot plenty of coverage of the bar on Carrillon, but again I don't really have specifics. Most of these people hadn't looked at the show in close to 20 years when I talked to them. To really find out would mean someone would have to get permission to go dig in the vault.

 

[todd s]

What is this "Cloven Foot Footage"? Even if it is not real. What was it suppose to be?

Thanks!

 

[Jason St Louis]

Todd in the episode "War of the Gods" Silver spar squadron is out on patrol when they vanish, after unknown light orbs come out of nowhere and races around the Vipers ships at the speed of thought.
The Galactica sents out Apollo, Starbuck and Sheba on recon. And they investigate and come to what appears at first to be a "Red Planet" and after they land they head to a large crater (which is described as "being big as a Battlestar") before they go down to see it closer a Man called Count Iblis comes out and greets them.He says there is no need to see the inside of crashed ship because he is the only survivor?
Behaving strange and confused they take him to the Galactica (when they call for a shuttle) before they do the light orbs come again causing harm to mortal ears but Count Iblis is uneffected? and tells Apollo he has been to Earth!
To cut a long story short, Count Iblis performs miracles (apparently)when is in the colonial fleet! he even tells Adama about Kobal and it's history and the journey made by the thirteenth tribe.
All the while the colonial fleet is being plagued by the "ships of light" each time losting Viper patrols? During this time the Count seduces Sheba, (Sheba comments he reminds her of a father "Commander Cain" later on the agroship he states she will see him again?!) has to complete three tasks of One!, Deliver Baltar, Two! Bring the Colonial Fleet to Earth!, The Third is not made yet?
After the the light orbs pass a Cylon Basestar Baltar goes to the Galactica? and is quickly sentenced to life on the prison barge.(For someone who caused the destruction of 12 planets and billions of deaths? no death sentence carried out is strange?)
Later on of the series most important revealations plays out! Count Iblis visits Baltar. Baltar recognizes his voice as the same as the Imperious Leader! Iblis says it not possible? Cylons are machines! Baltar claims over One Thousand Yahrens(years) The Cylons fell and were overcome with their own Technology? Iblis says that would make him over Thousand yahrens old!!!
Iblis leaves baltar when he says to him "Fear not, old friend all is not lost" Adama later tell Apollo, the key to iblis identity is in the crashed wrecked ship! Apollo joined by Starbuck go on a shuttle to the "Red Planet" Iblis picks out adama's thoughts on the agroship, and warns Adama that "breaking a bargain with him" will follow a high price and will start with a life more meaningful than his own!
Sheba still entralled by the Count, follows the shuttle to the Red Planet Once there Starbuck and Apollo enter the Wreckage which Iblis said had high radon levels! (Radiation) Apollo come to a large section of a burned out door to a destroyed chamber and pulls it down looking inside briefly he calls Starbuck over, They both see something horrible (but not us poor viewers)
Sheba arrives and tries to get pass Apollo then Starbuck tell Apollo to let Sheba see it, just befoe she does a cry is heard on the hillside "NO, I FORBID IT" and lightning explodes in the sky!
Count Iblis demands Apollo let go of Sheba and commands him to let go. Apollo corrects him saying he cannot command him because he has no power over him unless he gives him dominion! Iblis warns him again or he will strike her down Apollo angered by the Counts remarks shoots his laser pistol at Iblis, Iblis is invunerable to laserfire but his form changes to a "Demonic creature". Apollo is killed in a blast by Iblis, that was meant for Sheba. Starbuck is enraged and shoots Iblis again and again but is unble to kill an immortal Demonic creature or advance being like Count Iblis.
The white light orbs appear and Iblis looking concerned leaves but promises to return one day and teleports away revealing his true form as he does!
As Starbuck and Sheba return to the Galactica with Apollo body the Shuttle is enveloped by the huge Ship of lights?
Here endth the lession!
* Trivia : Iblis is immortal, has powers of Teleportation, and telepathy, Psionic's and others, but cannot command people with freewill or order people to do anything with the great powers he has! but he can trick or manipulate situations to his advantage. (Iblis and the people of the Lightship are references to "Angels's and Demons" in religious following.
* Iblis and his people are from an advance race. possible they were around and had a hand in Kobal's rise and fall?(He says the same thing of Earth's history to Adama?)
* Count Iblis is technically the "Imperious Leader" and had a hand in it's destruction of the original "Cylon race"
* Because of Sheba's references to Commander Cain, Iblis comments of him and Apollo's line of it's "big as a Battlestar" fans thought the body in the ship was the remains of Commander Cain in the wreckage of the "Battlestar Pegasus" (See Jon Strauss article in "Galactica Revisted")
* "Iblis" is Moslem for Satan!

 

[Jeff Kleist]

Sheba comments he reminds her of a father "Commander Cain" later on the agroship he states she will see him again?!)

Commander Cain was supposed to show up again in Season 2. Lloyd Bridges loved that role (I heard he even kept his jacket) and would have been back in a flash. Since the series didn't continue, you could say it was Cain's body, but no, it was supposed to be the wreckage of Iblis' ship, and the body of one of his race in its true form. Yes, Iblis' people are the enemy (or perhaps an evil faction) of the Ship of Lights people

Speaking of which, the Ship of Lights model fell to pieces shortly after the series ended ;( The Galactica was recently restored for the new series, and I'm pretty sure the Viper and Basestar and Cylon Fighter are still intact.

 

[Jason St Louis]

Funny you should say that about the "Pegasus" according to Battlestar Zone.com or net? Larry Mager and Susan J. Paxton article on "Lost Battlestars" says there were rumors of the Galactica meeting up with another "Battlestar" during the never filmed second season, and that ship was to be the "Battlestar Prometheus"

I suppose you can all take that with a "grain of salt" in terms of believing everything? Reputedly i take it as a maybe? the article does have more information on those "Lost Battlestars" questions? such as names of other ships mentioned throughout the series like in the backround dialogue in the pilot!

Names mentioned in the pilot!

* "Acropolis"

* "Pacifica"

* "Atlantia"

* "Triton" (Note. Battlestar Zone claims, the Triton is an escort ship? but she was mentioned in the pilot!)

Names mentiond in fandom!

* "Valiant"

* "Olympia"

* "Bellerophon"

* "Posiedon"

* "Argo"

Names mentioned in novels!

* "Cerberus" from: War of the Gods novel

Note. according to Battlestar Zone, the Cerberus and Prometheus had insignia and some helmet designs done "THE PROMETHEUS HOLDING A BURNING TORCH AND THE CERBERUS WITH A THREE HEADED DOG OR WOLF DESIGN ON A VIPER HELMET!

Also passage from this novel was used to create a "Maximum Press" BSG comic book story during the "Cylon Empire Vs Colonials" War story entitled "Baptism of Fire" featuring a young Adama and Cain!

* "Solaria" From: Battlestar Galactica novel (Note in the pilot adaption novel the "Solaria" was the last "Battlestar" destroyed in the Cylon sneak attack at Cimtar!)

* "Atlantia" From :"BSG novel" and "Tombs of Kobal" (Note: According to the novel Dietra survived from the "Atlantia"

Mentioned and seen in the series

* Galactica, Atlantia, Pegasus/ Mentioned throughout series: Rycon, Columbia (Cadet Cree may have been from the Columbia, Baltar's Battlestar was said to be the Columbia also? (see novels)

 

[Jeff Kleist]

I'll have to dig out my model kit, but that also had decals for the Columbia

Anything not in the show is not canon, and pretty much everything about more Battlestars gets dismissed in my experience as not having been planned for

There are some unfinished 2nd season scripts floating around out there, one was written my Terry McDonnell and Jim Carlson (Fire in Space, Take the Celestra) dealing with the classic situation of the sailor with a wife in every port (or in this case, ship). That's floating around out there.

 

[Jason St Louis]

But if you take into account that the, Cerberus and Prometheus had insignia work done? then that at least says it would be be canon had the second series used those designs! or something along those lines?

 

[Jeff Kleist]

I don't believe they had any insignia work done. According to Glen Larson, there are no Battlestar Names that weren't mentioned in the actual series. Sure he gets credit for some of the novels, but can you say ghostwriter?
You have to remember that the Galactica novels are notorious for errors (the best one being Richard's novel, "Warhawk" where Rigel was mysteriously turned into a man. Sarah Rush almost killed him when she found out )
Remember, NOTHING that was not put to film is canon

 

[Jason St Louis]

Yeah i can say ghostwriter, but Glen Larson hasn't listened to the backround dialogue in the pilot? very well has he! other "Battlestar" names have been mentioned! but no one was careful enough about how it fits into the Galactica storyline? We don't know much "ANYTHING" about the famous battles brought up in some of the episodes, only their names "THE BATTLE OF MOLECAY", "THE BATTLE OF COSMORA ARCHIPELAGO" and Larson wrote "Living Legend" so whats his excuse?

Battlestar Galactica is said to be the work of "Leslie Stevens as well as "Glen Larsen!" But since many fans know of BSG being rushed and pushed, into production! Also the "ABC" Vs Universal's problems with this show?

We know this show, is more than the sum of it's parts!