The latest on Conan, Leno and NBC

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  1. mattCR

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    SVU has turned into crap (IMHO), but I'll say it: make the deal and steal some of your shows they already have licensing for cheap.
    Available to them through licensing already in place, and how about this for a schedule:

    Monday:

    Chuck
    Heroes
    Dateline (or whatever)

    Tuesday:

    Biggest Loser 2 hour block thing
    Law & Order: SVU

    Wednesday:

    (Total question mark early)
    10PM/9PM CST: Law & Order Criminal Intent

    Thursday:
    Comedy Block (30 Rock/Office/Parks & Recreation/whatever)
    Law & Order: UK

    Friday: Licensing night!

    Friday Night Lights
    Merlin S2
    Law & Order (Original)

    Juts make the 10PM EST slot "Law & Order" in it's many flavors.. BTW: 1/2 hour Jay = total disaster.
     
  2. Alfonso_M

    Alfonso_M Second Unit

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    Originally Posted by James_Koch .. but it wont be that bad really, most of the time Jimmy Kimmel's guests already appeared in other shows mentioned doing the same number..

    I like Carson Daly because of his music inside too, the introductions he's been doing lately for the Bands are great, unfortunately I like the "Studio" performances much better that the Concert shows clips he's been showing lately, both the Video and Audio quality are seriously lacking for my taste.....
     
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    A shame they let Southland go to TNT, it would have plugged one of the 10 p.m. timeslots for them.
     
  4. Shad R

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    Poor Conan. I like him better than Jay. Conan seems to have more fun and his focus is on getting a laugh, either at his guests expense or his own. Also he's up for doing more "out there" comedy, Jay is more tame and geared toward a slightly older audience. Man, I hope they don't bump Conan for Leno to come back.
     
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    I can't even begin to put into words how much this pisses me off. If NBC sandbags Conan by giving Leno 11:30 back I won't ever watch their network again. Leno should have just gone away like he promised he would when his contract was up and if he still wanted to do a show he should have taken his "talent" to ABC or FOX. While I enjoyed Conan more when he was at 12:30 because he was allowed to be edgier and not forced to appeal so much to the mainstream, the fact is that NBC made their choice giving him The Tonight Show. If I was Conan and they tried to take that away I'd sue their asses back to the stone age.
     
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    Does this mean The Masturbating Bear will be returning?
     
  7. mattCR

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    Jay apparently ripped apart in his monologue (From multiple sources) compiled at DHD...


    Word is that if they move Jay, he'd be owed a $100M guaranteed contract they don't want to pay... and Conan has a guaranteed period on the Tonight Show also.. so while NBC may want to reshuffle, it might be out of necessity. Affiliates want Jay gone. NBC doesn't want to pay the hundred million, but if Jay moves somewhere else on the schedule they can renegotiate. They don't want to ax conan either.. too expensive, so move him as well.

    This is turning into "change our schedule because we screwed up so bad and can't afford to fix it" plan...
     
  8. James_Koch

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    Okay, so it appears TMZ has another bit of information from their source:

    So it appears that if Conan decides he doesn't want to continue, Jay will get a full hour show, and persumably the Tonight Show back.


    As for the monologue above, as far as I can tell it was recorded early enough in the day where Jay had only heard the "Jay is being cancelled" rumor all over the media from this morning. I bet he would have been in a much happier mood during the taping if he had heard the new developments by then.
     
  9. Jeff Adkins

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    This makes total sense as Conan has pretty much run The Tonight Show ratings into the sewer. Total viewers were down 49% from 4th quarter 2009 compared to 2008. Leno was averaging 5.03 million viewers, Conan is getting 2.55.

    Fallon is pretty much holding his own. He's down about half a million viewers from Conan's 2008 numbers. Conan was barely beating Ferguson last year at 12:30.

    From TVbythenumbers:

    In late night, LATE SHOW with DAVID LETTERMAN leads “The Tonight Show” (4.22m vs. 2.55m) compared to trailing by -20% last year (4.00m vs. 5.03m). LATE LATE SHOW with CRAIG FERGUSON has a +39% advantage in viewers over “Late Night with Jimmy Fallon” (1.95m vs. 1.40m) compared to trailing by -4% last year (1.91m vs. 1.98m).

    I can't imagine why NBC ever did this to begin with, but one can't argue that something had to be done. Conan has been a ratings disaster.
     
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    Conan was a ratings disaster when he took over Late Night from Letterman too, but NBC didn't bail on him then. That show just happened to stay on the air for 16 years. I do hope Conan leaves NBC after all this and destroys them with a 11:30 show on ABC or FOX. What a pathetically run network.
     
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    I don't have the numbers right now....I'll try and find them. But I guarantee you that Conan didn't lose half the viewers when he took over for Letterman.
     
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    Does this mean Royal Pains, Psych, White Collar, Burn Notice, and even Monk at 10pm? There isn't anything in the pipe for NBC.

    The scary thing is some of those shows got better ratings on USA than Leno did. Waaay better ratings.
     
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    Now THERE'S an 80's/Fred Silverman reference you don't see much anymore!
     
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    Someone help me remember the details. I thought that Jay Leno wanted to leave the Tonight Show and then after several months decided he still wanted to do it and and then he got the 10 spot. I really like Jay and either time but is he the one messing things up or is it NBC.
     
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    That's true. Jay agreed to the decision to leave The Tonight Show in 2009, but started making noise that he wanted to keep working, either with NBC or elsewhere as the date approached. As part of that agreement, NBC signed a contract with Conan giving him a huge payout if Conan didn't move to the 11:35 spot. So this is very much like the Brett Favre situation in Green Bay.

    I also dug the Supertrain reference and was going to say something in my last post but forgot.

    Maybe they should bring back Supertrain, Manimal, and Pink Lady & Jeff as an homage to the disastrous Silverman years at NBC. BTW, that's Fred, not Ben Silverman, although I never made that connection for some reason.
     
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    I'd be up for some Misfits of Science and maybe they can try and reboot Buck Rodgers (which is a Universal owned property). Why not?
     
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    They don't need to reboot Misfits of Science since Heroes is stinking up the schedule already
     
  18. Greg Kettell

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    Letterman must be very amused by all of this.

    (Supertrain! It's the Love Boat, only on a big-ass train! Genius!)
     
  19. Joseph Bolus

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    In all seriousness, doesn't NBC own Battlestar Galactica? They could probably air a two-hour block of it every Friday and do better than Leno ...
     
  20. mattCR

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    They do own BSG. Hell, they own Caprica. Move Caprica to the major net. ASAP.

    Friday Night fantasy block. Merlin->BSG->Caprica.

    :)
     

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