The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug: THE HTF ADDICT 3D REVIEW

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  1. Ronald Epstein

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    What can I say? I love 3D! From the moment I began watching 3D content in my home I quickly discovered that I needed more content. I suspect that those of you just purchasing your first 3D hardware will acquire the same ferocious appetite. That's why I became the HTF 3D ADDICT. I personally love images that pop off the screen and come inches away from your face without becoming overly gimmicky. However, I certainly appreciate the nature documentaries that offer beautiful depth and separation. These are not necessarily reviews of the film themselves. I am not going to concentrate on story or supplements -- you can find the 2D reviews elsewhere on this forum. My job is to let you know exactly what kind of 3D experience to expect from the titles that are being released. As I will be receiving a handful of new product from the studios expect to see more title coverage.







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    The Hobbit:
    The Desolation of Smaug

    Studio: Warner Bros.
    Product Release: April 8, 2014
    Ratio: 2.4:1
    Audio: DTS-HD MA 7.1
    Running Time: 161 minutes
    Rating: PG-13

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    On A Scale 0-5

    Overall 3D Presentation Rating: 5
    3D Separation: 5
    3D In Yo' Face Factor: 2


    "I am fire! I am death!"
    -Smaug


    Since this is my first review of any of the films within The Hobbit series, I am
    going to spend just a little bit of time talking about my personal feelings towards
    the original Lord of the Rings trilogy as well as what Peter Jackson has done with
    these new Hobbit installments.

    As a teenager, I was very much absorbed in the novels written by author J.R.R.
    Tolkien. I clearly remember the day I bought the first book, The Hobbit, and how
    I spent the next several weeks engrossed in its story, slowly making my way to its
    conclusion. Of course, that was followed up by the purchase of the three book
    Lord of the Rings trilogy which included The Fellowship of The Ring, The Two Towers
    and Return of the King.

    Anyone who has read these books in their youth or as adults have these adventures
    clearly burned within their memories. They were meticulously well-crafted stories
    that inspired a wealth of imagination. Clearly, these are the best fantasy novels
    ever written whose popularity have stood the test of time.

    I mention all of this because I want to establish that I have a clear understanding
    of the novels and how well the films represent the original material. I have always
    felt that Peter Jackson's The Lord of the Rings trilogy was an amazing cinematic
    accomplishment given the complexity of adapting those stories for the screen and
    making Middle Earth a convincingly real world, thanks to the film's groundbreaking
    CGI visual effects. To date and perhaps forever more, the trilogy will stand as the
    best fantasy film series of all time.

    When Peter Jackson announced he was finally moving forward with his plans to
    return to the series and make two films based on the original novel, The Hobbit,
    fans were overjoyed by the news. However, excitement soon turned to concern
    when Warner Bros. announced that the planned 2-part film would now become
    a three-parter.

    I think the fears of fans were somewhat realized in The Hobbit: An unexpected
    Journey, a film whose storyline was overstretched, that for many, it became a
    laborsome watch. I know of die-hard Lord of the Rings fans who either fell
    asleep or walked out of the theater from boredom. There are others, like myself,
    who have expressed a desire never to watch the original Hobbit film again. Personally,
    I feel Peter Jackson and the studio made a very poor choice to expand the storyline
    to the point where pacing was adversely affected.

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    Fortunately, it seems like The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug is not the same
    weighted anchor that the first film became. In fact, it's a rather exhilarating journey
    that is more tightly edited, contains some solid action sequences, and some of the
    most groundbreaking visuals that have ever been seen on screen thanks to the
    efforts of Weta Digital.

    Picking up immediately after An unexpected Journey, we find Bilbo Baggins (expertly
    played by Martin Freeman) and his company of dwarves led by Thorin (Richard Armitage)
    and Gandalf the Grey (Ian McKellen) continuing their quest to retake Lonely Mountain, a
    kingdom of treasure that has been invaded by a rather nasty dragon named Smaug (voiced
    by Benedict Cumberbatch). In the original Hobbit film, we only saw quick glimpses of the
    monstrous creature. However, as the title suggests, this film belongs almost entirely to
    Smaug, as he is finally revealed with eye-popping results.

    To watch this film on 3D Blu-ray is a sight to behold. Perhaps the reason for this is that
    the film is presented across two discs, allowing for more bandwidth to be utilized for both
    video and audio. There is an unprecedented level of clarity that had my eyes squarely
    glued to the screen in complete awe as I soaked in the fine details within the film's
    massive set pieces. The bar has certainly been raised with this transfer that offers
    exceptional imagery, perfect color grading, and noticeable detail -- even within the film's
    darker regions. Rarely do I see picture quality of this magnitude when wearing 3D eyewear.

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    So, let's take things up a notch as I talk about the 3D presentation which serves to
    make The Desolation of Smaug an even more exciting and emotional experience.
    For anyone hoping for any kind of pop-out gimmickry, there is none to be seen here
    except for a rather grand (but brief) moment in the film (which I will talk about momentarily).
    This presentation all about depth and the manner in which it effectively expands upon
    the enormous set pieces which look larger than life. There are some stunning 3D moments
    to behold here as the camera swoops above then directly through various sets and scenery.
    One of my favorite moments is when the camera dives into the Mirkwood forest with its layers
    of cloth spider webbing that seems real enough to touch. As our group of travelers race into
    the the home of Beorn, there are bumble bees that fly in and out of frame -- giving a distinct
    "oh wow" impression that anyone watching the film in 2D would clearly miss. At the beginning
    of the second disc, falling snow (most of it digitized) within LakeTown gives a rather satisfying
    effect. Film turns to thrill ride during the barrel escape scene which will ultimately stand as one
    of the most breathtaking sequences ever filmed for the entire series.

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    Another way in which this 3D offering really shines is how it brings out the massive
    scale and grandeur of the beast known as Smaug. The only pop-out that exists in this
    presentation occurs as he first awakens, his head rises, and snout protrudes forward.
    It's not necessarily, "in yo' face," but a point is definitely being made in having the snout
    extend itself directly into the audience. This is the only moment in the entire film where
    the slightest hint of ghosting is introduced. Other than that, there absolutely no crosstalk
    or any kind of abnormality that mars the absolute perfect image presentation.

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    This is the point in the review where I can proudly say that I no longer have to talk about
    how 7.1 audio has been downconverted to 5.1 on my system. As of last month I have
    expanded my audio system to support 7.1 channels. For me, this is an entirely new
    in-home audo experience which will most likely explain why I am about to gush all over it.
    For anyone whose home system supports 7.1 (and 5.1), I am assuming this is probably
    the most immersive audio experience that could be had until Warner does a proper home
    release of Gravity. This is one hell of an active audio experience with rears working at
    full force to provide ambient effects which include several moments of sinister voices that
    move fluently around the room and clearly into the two back rear channels (which resulted
    in a huge smile on my face). One of my favorite audio moments happens within the Mirkwood
    forrest as the hissing sounds of spiders and their ghoulish dialogue surround and envelope
    the listener. It's here that you can sense the level of sonic detail within the mix, as you
    clearly making out the individual steps of crawling spider legs. Another terrific sonic moment
    takes place at Dol Guldor, were Sauron is revealed to Gandalf. The twisted, creaking sounds
    of the fortress engulfs the listener. Another memorable moment comes when we first meet
    Legolas and his band of elves. As they surround the dwarves, you can hear the sounds of
    individual bows being drawn through every single channel. This is a mix puts the listener
    directly in the middle of the action while being swept off their feet by Howard Shore's
    beautifully epic score. The presence of LFE is unmistakable, but yet never overpowering.

    The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug arrives as a 5-disc 3D combo package. As
    mentioned previously, the film is spread across two Blu-ray discs with a sort of abrupt
    cutting point. Two additional blu-rays make up the 2D version and Special Features.
    The fifth disc is the DVD. A Digital HD Ultraviolet presentation is also included. The Blu-ray
    packaging is encased in a cardboard lenticular sleeve.

    I will let other reviewers go into the special features included on these discs. My reviews
    are more about the presentation.



    CONCLUSION

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    Prior to this review, Warner's Blu-ray release of Gravity held the top spot on my Top 30
    most recommended 3D release list. Amazingly, that top spot was given to a film that
    was not natively shot in 3D, but unconverted in post production. With absolutely none
    of the pop-out that I personally prefer, I gave Gravity its award based upon is overall
    immersive experience both visually and sonically.

    However, Warner's neglect in providing a 7.1 track for Gravity is the reason why it has
    now become unseated.

    In short, The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug is an incredible, cinematic achievement
    that has been given a grand treatment on Blu-ray. It's image quality is so exceptional
    that even 3D eyewear cannot diminish its level of detail. The 7.1 mix serves as the icing
    on the cake in making this the most immersive 3D experience to be had in the home. For
    that, it now ranks as what I feel, at the moment to be, the best 3D Blu-ray disc you can buy.



    Images are for illustrative purpose only and not representative of the picture quality of this disc.

    Equipment

    Samsung PN64F8500 display professionally calibrated by Gregg Loewen, Lion AV
    Oppo BDP-93 3D Blu-ray Player
    Denon 3311CI Receiver
    Atlantic Technology H-PAS AT-1 fronts, 4400 center; 4200 rear side and back speakers
    SV Sound Subwoofer
     
  2. TonyD

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    Day one at store opening for me. I Didn't make it to a theater for this one, first time in this series.

    I am probably going to put these at the top of the list for my favorite ongoing series.
     
  3. Ronald Epstein

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    Tony,

    I am surprised you have yet to watch this film.

    What did you think of The Hobbit? Did you dislike it as I did?

    This second film really brought back the thrill of watching
    The Lord of The Rings films. I am so impressed by Peter Jackson
    and his way of telling a story. The action sequences in this film are
    executed in the most amazing manner.

    "Epic" is the only word I have to describe this film.
     
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    I get the criticisms of the first one but I still enjoy it a lot.

    Watched it at the theater several times.That was a perk of being a manager at an Imax theater before we moved to FLa.

    Then i watched it on 3D at home twice now.

    Will Watch the extended first movie then Smaug next week.

    As long as all these movies are (all the extended Rings and Hobbit movies) I may have watched them more then anything else in my collection over the last ten years.

    The timing just wasn't good for us to get to see Smaug at a theater.
     
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    Thanks for your review. I will probably be getting the theatrical release in 2D however and get the 3D for the extended cut.
     
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    I look forward to seeing a 3 hour movie extracted from the 9 hours telling the story of this superb book - probably a very long wait?
     
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    Looking forward to receiving this one. My wife pre-ordered it for my birthday, which should arrive on street date, and we will finally get to see it all the way through in 3D this time. When we saw it in IMAX 3D last December, the right projector failed during the spider attack sequence (of all places), and the theater decided to screen the remainder in HFR 2D (but with only one projector, so it wasn't really a digital IMAX presentation). It was an overall bad experience that ruined the flow of the film.
     
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    "Epic" is the only word I have to describe this film."I agree, great film. And Smaug is THE greatest CGI character of all times. So far, at least.
     
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    That sucks! However, I would have been really curious to see a portion of the movie in HFR 2D, as I don't think the HFR version was generally offered in 2D. (I tried both IMAX HFR 3D and IMAX 3D on 15/70 film at 24fps.)

    Had a similar experience - saw the midnight opening in IMAX 3D (15/70 film) at Lincoln Square in NYC. Ian McKellen made a surprise appearance to introduce the film and started watching it with us -- about ten minutes in, the projector died and it took them an hour to fix. An hour delay before a three hour movie that already was starting at midnight, not ideal.
     
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    I loved An Unexpected Journey. It's absolutely gorgeous to look at, and it's probably the most "peaceful" look at Middle Earth we'll ever see. It's a terrific introduction to world with just a hint of darkness starting to creep in. Slow? Perhaps, but after three LOTR movies of endless chases and battles it was nice just to spend some quiet time in this world. I do love Desolation as well, although the constant physics-defying action does stretch a bit thin after a while. (Apparently heat does not transfer in Middle Earth....being completely surrounded by fire or molten metal is perfectly OK as long as it doesn't touch you directly). Smaug more than makes up for any shortcomings the movie has, though.
     
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    Does anyone know if Family Video generally carry 3D bds? I'll rent this, but will wait to purchase the extended release later in the year. I really enjoyed the first part and didn't get the criticisms of it. I ended up missing this theatrically, too, as I did the first one.
     
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    I feel like any review of this film should mention that, unlike the first movie, it has fart-all to do with the book. Which is not to say that I didn't enjoy it, but anyone expecting an actual adaptation of the middle part of the original story is going to be disappointed. At best, it's a "reimagining."

    Fun movie, though.
     
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    Ours do.
     
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    Thanks, DavidJ. I haven't been to a Family Video in years and it's the only place to rent from where I moved to.
     
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    Has an extended version been announced?
     
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    No but it's a very safe bet that it'll be out in November before the third movie is released theatrically.
     
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    So we can expect a later Extended version of this series, following the marketing ploy done for the LOTR
    series?? & then the boxed "Mega" multi-disc set when all are done
    For me this is a rent & watch - as they come out & buy the extended box set when all is done
     
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    That's been my plan all along!
     
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    I personally hope that when disks are large enough, we will get a mega edit of LOTR which would make it a 12 hour epic (and do the same with the Hobbit Trilogy). And then, to go all out, they could combine both trilogies into one truly massive move to have a Middle-Earth Epic 20 hour-ish saga.
     

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