The Fugitive: Season 3 Vol.2

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  1. stevelecher

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    There are six or seven very good episodes in the last half of season 3. The problem is there are seven or eight mediocre ones. Cora Lee, Not With A Whimper, Shadow Of The Swan, White Knight, With Strings Attached, and several others leave the impression you've seen it before and it was better before.

    For the record, I love Ill Wind, Wife Killer, The 2130, Echo of a Nightmare, Running Scared, and for its light comedic touch, The Chinese Sunset.

    I'm one of those who thinks Season 4 drops off a lot in quality. We'll debate that one when Season 4 is released.

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  2. Gary OS

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    Paul Mavis's review is now up at DVDTalk for anyone interested. As always, he does a great job!

    Gary "busy day for me so I doubt I'll be posting much until late tonight" O.
     
  3. Roy Wall

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    I can't imagine there being much of a debate about the drop off pertaining to season 4 but I do enjoy the two part finale as I think we all do.
     
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    I've always enjoyed The Fugitive, but I do feel that the S4 episodes don't have the same quality of the first three years. Maybe it's the jarring switch to colour--I feel much atmosphere is lost when Kimble runs in colour--but there are many episodes in S4 that just don't hold up for me. Of course the QM repertory of actors continue to do great work, as does Janssen (except for that episode where he's temporarily blind--ugh) and the final two-part episode is fantastic (I love the final scene). Regardless of the quality drop, there are still many good episodes and I look forward to their eventual release on DVD.
     
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    Funny, one of the season 4 episodes I do like is the blind episode. I know Ed Robertson didn't like it, but it seems more like a Fugitive episode than many of the others.

    For now, I'm looking forward to S3V2 and hope the music's no worse than V1. It will be interesting to see how they handle Ill Wind.

    Steve L.
     
  6. Roy Wall

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    The other highlight to season 4 other than the classic two part finale as I recall is like four or so appearances of Fred Johnson...as I'm guessing the producers realizing this was the last season of the Fugitive...decided to wet the appetites of viewers with more stories involving the one armed man....so that's another plus taking in consideration the drop off. Speaking of Fred Johnson episodes...I recall enjoying "A Clean and Quiet Town" with Janssen getting roughed up quite a bit back when A & E was airing the show. I remember the "blind" episode from the A& E days too (was Fred Johnson in that one, too ??....seems like I remember him in that one briefly)...but I DO remember laughing outright at Janssen's acting "blind"...somehow I felt that performance belonged in Police Squad.

    Anyway....I'm definitely looking forward to the final season of The Fugitive
     
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    Other S4 highlights for me are "The Ivy Maze" (I love William Windom) and "Dossier on a Diplomat"--diplomatic bureaucracy prevents Gerard from arresting Kimble! I look forward to the S3 V2 release this Tuesday and have no doubt we'll see S4 released next year on DVD!
     
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    I always enjoy getting these releases a bit early - I've had S3 Vol.2 since Friday but was finishing Vol.1 before going into it. Since I obviously cannot readily differentiate between what is original vs non original regarding the music best not to try! Hopefully I will start watching it by Monday.
     
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    Looking forward to hearing how S3v2 fares in the music department. My copy isn't likely to arrive for a week or so, which is fine as I am backed up and making my way through the previous volumes.
     
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    Music info from a poster (Robert Dahl) on Amazon: (not mentioned below since he hadn't watched Ill Wind yet, but a couple of people have reported that the song in Ill Wind is intact):

     
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    Oh my, that's just horrible news Joyce. Just when we thought they had figured this thing out after glowing reports that S3, V1 was pretty solid we get this review. Ugh. I can't express my dismay if this report holds up as solid.


    Gary "the last thing I wanted to hear is that this volume was going to be another 'mixed bag'" O.
     
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    I haven't gotten it yet but I am finding myself perplexed since V1 had a very low percentage of replacement music. I do have to caution one thing though if this is the same person who was at first in error about the amount of replacement music in "Landscape With Running Figures", we should get some multiple takes on this.
     
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    Yes, it's the same person.
     
  14. Gary OS

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    Ok, so what does this mean? The guy doing this review is not a good judge of percentages? Is that what you all are saying? If so, then maybe all is not lost yet.


    Gary "I know from firsthand experience on this very board how confusing things can get when people give out inaccurate percentages about this type of thing" O.
     
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    I'm just saying that in light of how he turned out to be wrong on no less than four instances of moments in "Landscape" that turned out to be the original cues after all, I'd rather wait and see for myself before affixing a percentage. I really have to get skeptical on any assessment that says "50% Heyes" because I have found in past experience that even those episodes that have a large amount of Heyes are never more than about seven to ten minutes of the episode overall which is never "fifty percent" by any stretch of the imagination.

    I won't doubt there's likely some Heyes in there, but I refuse to be too pessimistic just yet. Heck, I can even remember when the replacements for S2 V1 came out there was an erroneous assumption that a prominent TZ cue from Invaders wasn't in "Man In A Chariot" when in fact it was.
     
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    I don't know about percentages but I am on the last DVD of Volume Two and I can assure you that this is not like Volume One. There is much more music replaced in this volume. The good news is "ILL WIND" is untouched. I do know personally the fellow who did the review on Amazon and agree with his assesment with this volume. Granted, it is not as bad as Season Two Volume Two, but it does have a lot of replaced scores. Still worth having but not as untouched as the first volume of season three.
     
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    I have only two words: Oy Vey.

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  18. Jack P

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    Well, it's disappointing to hear that they took another step backward but I have to just be among those who'll be content with half a loaf at this point. I've already made my standard clear on what is and isn't acceptable for me when it comes to this show and even in the worst case scenario, it's not the standard that would keep me from buying, especially since "Wife Killer" and "2130" are the only episodes from this batch I can claim to have seen before.

    I'm more concerned at this point what happens in S4 when we get into the use of "Outer Limits" cues, though admittedly only the last episode is the one that I'm familiar with in minute detail.
     
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    Would fellow HTF'ers call me a loon if I tell you I thinking when I get Season 4 and I encode it for my Apple TV I'm thinking of having Handbrake's option "Greyscale" filter checked...
     
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    Well I bought my copy today and will start watching later in the week. I won't have my expectations too high, but as I've said, I'm in the category of people in the middle who can settle (albeit grudgingly) for half a loaf because CBS has screwed up titles worse than this on DVD ("Odd Couple" anyone?)
     

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