The downside to fragmentation

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  1. RobertR

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    Once again, Sam has trouble deciding if market share is worth paying attention to.
     
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    Not really. I am fascinated by the fact that people spend hundreds of dollars for these devices including pricy data packages and then don't use em.
     
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    If that's really the perspective you view this from, it's of no more interest than reading about people who connect a composite video cable to their HDTVs. It says nothing about the capability of the TV.
     
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    We've danced around the discussion of the social stratification of Android vs. iPhone, but this sure paints an interesting picture. Sure to be controversial, but interesting:
    http://daringfireball.net/linked/2013/06/20/twitter-map

    Note that it fundamentally assumes that twitter use itself is equal across the board. I'm not so sure that's true. I'd be really intrigued to see that broken down into Samsung vs. everyone else on the Android side.

    Also, this is taking fragmentation to new extremes:
    http://allthingsd.com/20130620/cant-decide-between-windows-or-android-samsungs-ativ-q-convertible-does-both/?mod=tweet
     
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    the twitter mapping is neat, and I spent half an hour last night perusing my region (I wish streets were easier to read). Dulles pops out as an incredibly dense cloud of usage. And then my neighborhood, new with few homes, shows as a few points along the road.But I'd take care in drawing some conclusions. It looks to me like its drawing then Android points first, and the iPhone points second, causing the iPhone data to appear more prominent. You see this in cities which appear to be Apple only, until you zoom in, and then it's more varied. I could be wrong, but that's an impression I got. Still, the difference between city and suburbs was strong in places.
     
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    Jeebus:
    Now -that's- interesting fragmentation =)
    http://bgr.com/2013/06/24/ios-7-beta-2-download-release-date/
     
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    A 1000x this:
    http://mattgemmell.com/2013/07/15/constraints/
     
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    Unabashed iPhone fanboy snob tries going Android only for a month, comes to unsuprising conclusions: he doesn't like it!

    But! Mostly it's the carriers' faults, not Google's or the handset makers'.
    http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2013/07/android_vs_iphone_why_apple_still_has_the_edge_over_google_s_operating_system.single.html
     
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    I remain baffled why Slate hired as tech writer someone who dislikes / disdains tech as much as Farhad?
     
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    Well shit dude if we are gonna go down that route we could be here all day listing the foibles of tech writers. I can list out the tech Journos I REALLY trust on one hand, and not a single one of them wouldn't be labeled an apple fanboy tho. Well, I guess Declann McCullough isn't....
     
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    You seem fond of quoting people you say you don't find trustworthy....
     
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    Still doesn't explain why you in essence say "hey everybody! read this untrustworthy piece here!". People typically post things they agree with or that make a point they consider sound.
     
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    Because I find them interesting, if flawed? I guess that is what separates me from most people, they usually have their fingers in their ear saying "no no no I don't want to hear from your worldview which might make me have to either change my mind or expand my boundaries". Or as Mr. Whitman puts it: "“Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself, I am large, I contain multitudes."

    Sam
     
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    I don't think Farhad Manjoo is a fanboy or an android or iPhone hater. I think he doesn't like technology, categorically. And I don't understand why slate hired home as their tech writer.Slate's marquee names have an apparent deep enthusiasm for their topics. Emily Bazelon is bonkers for the Supreme Court. John Dickerson is a nut for polls and loves all things politics. David Plotz...well...he hates pandas ;) (I don't read Slate much currently, but regularly listen to the Gabfest)My first impression of Manjoo -- I read him enthusiastically when he first joined Slate -- was he suffered gadgets enough to write about them but didn't have any particular interest in tech as a topic. There's a place in tech writing for the curmudgeon, the everyman, the crank (i mean, i was reading over John Dvorak 20 years ago). But Manjoo brought no passion, or deep insights to balance that. And I wish Slate brought to tech the passion they bring to politics and news.I quit reading Farhad a couple years ago. I read your link, to see what his current stuff is. I didn't change my opinion (#confirmationbias #adhominem) In any case, I'm a crank when it comes to Farhad Manjoo, tech columnist :)
     
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    I will take your word on it, I don't follow him closely enough to know his mindset other than what he posted in the article.
     
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    Paul Stamatiou makes the case that Android is better (for alpha geeks who want to tweak everything and make changes to default apps at least).

    http://paulstamatiou.com/android-is-better

    But with 20 bajillion users, what Android lacks is a champion who will tell the hordes what talking points that they need to reinforce, cause that's what Gruber does, amirite? He's willing and ready!
    Oh and that fragmentation thing? Not a problem, responsive design has that nailed!

    Did we mention that he had to get the $650 no carrier crap deal to get all this wonderfulness? Among all the other gotchas and not-quite-there's he lists....
     

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