T2 Extreme vs. T2 Ultimate comparison screenshots

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  1. Sam Davatchi

    Sam Davatchi Producer

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    Here are some comparison pictures I made. It’s important to remark that the pictures are not resized in anyway. The first is from the Ultimate Edition and the second is from the Extreme DVD.

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    The Theatrical Cut is on the Extreme DVD via seamless branching!

    To access it, highlight "Sensory Control" and press right 5 times. "The Future is Not Set" will appear. Press Enter.

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    the Ultimate Edition:
    http://perso.club-internet.fr/willow/temp_t2_ex_04.jpg
    the Extreme DVD:
    http://perso.club-internet.fr/willow/temp_t2_ex_05.jpg

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    the Ultimate Edition:
    http://perso.club-internet.fr/willow/temp_t2_ex_06.jpg
    the Extreme DVD:
    http://perso.club-internet.fr/willow/temp_t2_ex_07.jpg

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    The High-Definition vs. The Extreme DVD comparison shot

    The resolution is quite impressive. Here is a link and it’s a comparison between the new extreme transfer and the HD version.
    http://perso.club-internet.fr/willow/temp_t2_hd.jpg
     
  2. Brajesh Upadhyay

    Brajesh Upadhyay Supporting Actor

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    Looks like less (or no) edge enhancement on the 'Extreme' DVD. I'm sticking w/my 'Ultimate' DVD though.
     
  3. Simon_Lepine

    Simon_Lepine Supporting Actor

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    The Extreme looks sharper, much more details, for example, the boat in the upper right corner..
     
  4. Paul Arnette

    Paul Arnette Cinematographer

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  5. Neil Joseph

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    What kind of display is this on, or is it a frame grab from something like Power DVD? (Home PC) The images make a nice business case for the Extreme edition. The UE is more saturated, less sharp, and has edge enhancement. The XE has more lifelike colours with less saturation, is more sharp, and has no EE that I can see from those images.
     
  6. StevenW

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    Yep I also can tell a difference. The Extreme looks much better. First thing I noticed was how the grass looks much more natural. Also in the very bottom left hand side, the crack in the sidewalk is much more visible on the Extreme edition.
     
  7. Paul_Scott

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    pretty obvious to me the extreme edition is much sharper/clearer.


    well, in any case, these screenshots sold me.
    i'll pay $15 to upgrade.


    Thanks, Sam!
     
  8. Nick Graham

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    I was leaning, now I'm sold....I've never thought too highly of the UE transfer when it's viewed through the scrutiny of a decent HD set. I'll still be keeping my UE for the DTS ES track.

    Thanks, Sam, I was waiting for someone to do this!
     
  9. Sam Davatchi

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    Here are more:

    the Ultimate Edition:

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    the Extreme DVD:

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  10. Dave Mack

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    Groovy....
     
  11. oscar_merkx

    oscar_merkx Lead Actor

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    thanks Sam for the screenshots. Looks like I am sold as well

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  12. Jeff Adams

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    Simply put, if the video quality is better on the EE, then I will purchase it.
     
  13. Gruson

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    Please post a hint on where you found the Extreme version!!! I cannot wait to play the HD version, which is a MUST BUY!

    Trashmart have it? [​IMG]
    PanandScanrental store have it?
     
  14. Doug Schiller

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    He is in France so I'm not sure it will help you.
    Anyway, the EE wins hands down.
    All the edge enhancement where the curb meets the street is gone in the EE version.
    Included with the boat, grass, and sprinkler, check out the detail in the pavement on the driveway.

    I can't wait to pick this up.

    Doug
     
  15. chris_clem

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    I read an interesting bit on dvdfile.com recently about the validity of screen captures being posted on the internet and I was wondering if we should all be cautious about jumping to conclusions on the T2 transfer based soley on these screenshots. I mean, I can clearly see the differences in the pictures provided but can we really expect to see this drastic an improvement when we all (inevitably) purchase our copies of the the extreme edition? I don't mean to be rude by bringing this point up but I am just really curious and would like to hear other's thought's on this too. [​IMG]


    Here's the link: http://www.dvdfile.com/news/viewpoin...003/04_30.html

    Here's the pertinent paragraphs:

    Our Editor Peter responds: Hey Kal, thanks much for the kind words. You've uncovered one or our deep, dark secrets: we don't actually use screenshots, except on rare occasions. I know they are often popular on the web, but I remain very dubious about their use. It is fine to spruce up a review with them (we usually PR photos supplied by the studios, hence the cropping to a standard 200x150 pixel size), but to present them as an accurate representation of a transfer? I remain unconvinced.

    I believe they misrepresent the final product for a number of reasons. Not only are they often resized, which completely rerenders an image, but the resolution is further reduced or altered when they are converted to jpegs or gifs, the two most common web picture file formats. Even with a screen capture that has not been resized or tweaked by an image manipulation program such as PhotoShop, there is also the issue of monitor calibration and gamma differences between PCs and Macs. Even if a screen capture program is able to take a more or less faithful reproduction of a DVD image, the vast differences in calibration and the need to adjust gamma settings depending on operating system make their use extremely suspect. Does anyone really think that a screen capture, as seen on the average 15" to 21" computer monitor, is really going to reflect what it will look like on even a decent 27" direct view television set, let alone a ten foot front projection screen?

    However, I do believe screen captures can be very effective when used to illustrate obvious source element issues, such as a scratches and print damage, or obvious transfer anomalies, such as excessive edge enhancement. But I feel it is misleading to compress a screen capture down to a jpeg and give readers the impression that this is what they will get when the pop the disc in their player at home. As they say, everything looks great squooshed down to PC dimensions. Thanks much for your very nice email, and hope this clears up our position.
     
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  18. Neil Joseph

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    The differences seen here are exactly like the differences I have seen between non-superbit and superbit releases from CTS. This has definitely taken my interest.
     
  19. StefanPaulmayer

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    @sam

    thanks for the screenshots - they are surely interesting

    have you got a scanner oder a digital camera? I'd love to see a shot of the new metal case but you can't find any pic
     
  20. Brian Lawrence

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    Wow! Those look like night and day. The Extreme edition looks so much cleaner and film-like. Even the colors look better. [​IMG]
     

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