the dollars right out of my Wallet. Just sprang for a PB1 Plus last night. My first sub, and from my time on this forum the question of which brand was never in doubt. I almost sprang for a cylnder TWO years ago, but the wife just wouldn't have it. When I saw the PB1 Plus on the SVS website I knew it was game over. It will probably arrive while I'm travelling to San Jose the week of the 22nd with my luck.