michael deakin
Deceased Member
As far as his acting ability, at least he comes by his ham-handedness honestly. Believe it or not, he is a classically trained Shakespearean actor.
What does being a classically trained Shakespearean actor have to do with ham-handedness? I don't think either one has anything to do with the other. I mean, you just insulted a multitude of classically trained Shakespearean actors!
Here's a good question for you. Who was worse: Mark Hamill or William Shatner? Star Wars is one of my favorites, but that scene in Empire where Luke is crying and screaming when Vader told him he was his father is just plain bad acting. I remember certain scenes in Star Trek episodes where Shatner got emotional and it just didn't work.
Well I'd pick Hamill any time. The guy lost movement in his face for one thing before Empire.
But apart from anything else he's good at delivering his lines (very good - don't forget he is the Joker in Batman The Animated Series), whereas Shatner can't seem to...put the pause...where it...matters.
Some songs you just DO NOT MESS with and Freebird is one of them!!!
So, I'm guessing you're not a big Will to Power fan.
What is the ABC footage?
In addition to the extended scene when Kirk inspects Engineering, the scene where the kid dies is also extended, and shows more conversation between Kirk and a grieving Scott. The scene shows Shatner in a slightly more vulnerable light.
Also, ABC showed different takes / camera angles of other scenes. When Kirk and Saavik are alone in the turbolift, the camera focus is on their faces rather than pulled back. "Are you wearing your hair differently, Lieutenant?" "It's still regulation, sir."
After Chekov contacts Regula I and informs Carol Marcus that Reliant is on her way to take posession of the Genesis project, the members of the Genesis team discuss / argue their options. ABC showed a completely different take of this scene than the theatrical release. Camera angle and dialog are both different, and the ABC 'version' presents more tension between Carol and David Marcus than the theatrical release. If I remember correctly, the scene also runs slightly longer.
All in all I like the "ABC footage". The turbolift scene does not work very well in my opinion, but the other scenes are cool. I hope Paramount includes them on the SE!
And has anyone heard whether or not Ricardo Montalban is doing a commentary?
-- Elrand
Another bad one is Robert De Niro. Great actor, but his crying scenes in Analyze This, well not very good.
Is this trolling/joking. The Deniro crying stuff got the biggest laughs in the theater. It was comedy, it was played as comedy, and it worked.
Regards,
The Deniro crying stuff got the biggest laughs in the theater. It was comedy, it was played as comedy, and it worked.
Exactly.
What does being a classically trained Shakespearean actor have to do with ham-handedness? I don't think either one has anything to do with the other. I mean, you just insulted a multitude of classically trained Shakespearean actors!
Ha! Well, I was trying to be complimentary
Seriously, I love Bill Shatner. I know he's iffy in more than a few roles, but when he's in his element he can be very effective. Star Trek II and VI, the Meyer installments, for example. And yes...he does.....phrase things...a little wonky but not as much...as he used to.
I am very much looking forward to the Star Trek SEs
Has De Niro even cried in any other films? I can't get my brain to work right now on that thought...
One of his better and more emotionally moving scenes IMO.