STAR TREK: ENTERPRISE 09/10/'03: "The Xindi"

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  1. PhilipG

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    Well, I didn't like it. They managed to make the theme unpleasant even for those of us who really liked it before, the story was stock, the characters aren't interesting, and the entire episode looked cheap, too. It reminded me of last year's Klingon episode, where something that was supposed to be a big deal managed to just look pathetic because the sets were small and cheap-looking.

    And how stupid are the Xindi? "The humans are coming! We've got to do something!" "It's an invasion!" "Well, gee, Fred, maybe we shouldn't have shown them our superweapon and let them know we exist."

    The spatial distortion thing makes no sense once a second's thought is applied to it - is it traveling along with Enterprise, at multiples times the speed of light, but still staying in the same position relative to the ship? That seems unlikely.

    Starting next week, I'm back to not watching when B&B have writing credits. It's good to be reminded why I started ignoring them once in a while, though.
     
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    If this is the show's new direction, I won't be tuning in beyond the next few episodes. I dropped in and out last season.

     
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    Aaarrgghh! [​IMG]
    The premiere was yesterday???? When's the re-run?
     
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    Have you checked your local listings? Last season, my local UPN affiliate would show repeats of the Wednesday episode of Enterprise on Friday or Saturday nights depending on their programming schedule.

    Give www.tvguide.com a look for repeats.

    Re: the theme song: I think they need to let Trip (Connor Trinneer) do the song if they want more twang in the singing of the song.
     
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    I thought the episode was pretty good. One thing I have noticed is how people have criticized the various Xidi species. I am going to give the Trek production staff kudos for it. A lot of people(including me) have complained about how all the Trek aliens seem to be humans with something attached to the foreheads or ridges. Well, it looks like most of the Xindi were full make up versions. And I liked that.
     
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    Overall I really liked this episode. There were a few things that I didn't care for, but they were outweighed by the positives.

    Did the insectoid Xindi (especially their vocalizations) remind anyone of the Geonosians in Ep 2?

    I know most may not agree, but for me, this is the best Star Trek series that I have watched. I could never get into TNG, DS9, or Voyager (though I tried). But I find myself setting aside Wednesday at 8 to catch Enterprise. It's not perfect, but I like it.. oh well.
     
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    OK I liked it! Sure it didn't set me on my butt with all of the new things happening, but it was much better than most of last year.

    LOVED the initial council meeting with Xindi. To me it reminded me of the meeting in SW ep2 only on a smaller scale.

    They seemed to make the lighting a little more dramatic and I liked that too.

    The scene with T'pol wasn't needed and took away from a better setup for the season.

    I liked the military in the crew, and am hoping the interaction ISN't pleasant with the regular crew. A few squabbles would be nice.

    Brent
     
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    On the theme: I had always felt an instrumental, like the other series would have been best. However, once they decided and went with "It's been a long time", or whatever the title is, they shouldn't have changed it. Unless it was to go to an instrumental, as I mentioned before.

    I still swear this "Xindi" sounds familiar. If not previously on Enterprise, then maybe on Voyager as in a very similar sounding name of a species, but not exactly the same. Oh, and with the Xindi, yet another species we see in the pre-Federation world that just drops off the face of the universe by the time of Kirk and co., and those who followed him.
     
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    The show was better then some, worse then others. I still do not think Scott Bakula has the role down. He seems to be angrier this season..... less a father figure to the crew and more a ring leader. The ship, at least inside, is spiffier. Sci Fi is a genre. At the risk of being blasted with a phaser, you can really do only so much. Get too cerebral and you lose the action audience. Too much action and you lose the "thinkers". And, by no means, don't ever do comedy. As long as the same producers are in charge you're not really going to see much difference from past seasons.
     
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    I'm not a purist by any stretch but I have enjoyed TOS and TNG, as well as their afilliated movies, for their entertainment value. DS9 and Voyager never did do anything for me. I do enjoy Enterprise, and I realize there is so much more that could be done with it. It's probably the potential of the show that keeps me watching.

    I thought that whole Xindi council had an EP 2 flavor to it. All the bad guys (and insects) around the table arguing over the new universal order. That swimming thing looks like a rip-off of something I have seen relatively recently too.

    It's a shame that UPN doesn't show this in HD. They have to start somewhere. Then again, if the show tanks it would only increase their losses.

    With all things wrong with the writing, it's a petty complaint, but they really ruined the opening theme. It doesn't have that "lighter effect" anymore. It almost seems like an attempt to speed it up and get to the first commercial.

    Well, I'll keep watching and hoping.

    Ralph
     
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    I can understand they wanted to save money by reusing the Core's Suits, but whereas they made sense in the core they don't make sense in Enterprise. In the Core the suits are metallic to handle huge amounts of Heat. But I would think the Maco's would want to be low Key Stelth uniforms, not bright shiny mettalic that would stick out like a sore thumb. Anyone else agree?
     
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    An OK episode. I agree with everyone about the T'Pol scene at the end. It felt forced and contrived. Better effects (especially the shots of the Enterprise), but the suits that the MACO's wear are terrible! Are those supposed to be camouflaged?

     
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    It's a country-western theme now?!? God give me strength..

    I dunno, I'd like to see Enterprise improve, but I think I agree with the camp that thinks the whole franchise should be shelved.. If you love something, let it go.

    And B&B should be ritually disemboweled..
     

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