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Yeah, the "Mastered In 4K" junk is essentially the same thing as their old Superbit DVDs.Johnny Angell said:Are they all Sony?
Without the filtering or edge enhancement added to them, i get your point though, no extra content despite having the space for it. There are subtle improvements to these releases which make them worthwhile for big screen owners.TravisR said:Yeah, the "Mastered In 4K" junk is essentially a new version of their Superbit DVDs.
Yeah and I assume that the discs will all look better than their original Blu-ray releases but at the same time, I don't really care if it was mastered in 4K when I can only watch it at 2K. Even if I got a 4KTV, the disc still won't be 4K.FoxyMulder said:Without the filtering or edge enhancement added to them, i get your point though, no extra content despite having the space for it.
I think it's to try and help sell their 4K televisions and projectors, when 4K discs eventually arrive later in the year or early next year i can see Sony/Columbia being the first studio to put the real 4K discs out in support of the players, until then this mastered in 4K will continue, i personally do like to know the disc has been done at a higher resolution because it does result in more detail on the blu ray release than a 2K film scan, i'm also very glad that they don't add any excessive sharpening or DNR, they see film grain as natural, if this was Universal or Paramount i'm pretty sure they would screw it up somehow.TravisR said:Yeah and I assume that the discs will all look better than their original Blu-ray releases but at the same time, I don't really care if it was mastered in 4K when I can only watch it at 2K. Even if I got a 4KTV, the disc still won't be 4K.
Other studios are releasing titles using 4K sources but they aren't putting a banner on the top of the cover to make it look like they're 4K discs.
Not any that i can see with The Amazing Spiderman or Ghostbusters but Glory has more detail.RolandL said:Maybe its my monitor and/or old eyes, but the current mastered in 4K discs don't look much better if any than the 2K. Let the flaming begin!
Ghostbusters
Glory
The Amazing Spiderman
Yes i see that after taking a second look at the caps, i had only checked out the first pic on Amazing and didn't see it, i should have checked out more, good catch Chuck, looking again i see that even the first pic has a small increase in detail, if they did sharpen they did it in a subtle way, no halo's, it looks natural, not the way Universal do it, maybe it's also a higher bitrate and better encoding, maybe they "hand tune" the encode for individual scenes on their mastered in 4K releases.Chuck Anstey said:You can see using the PNG files that the "Mastered for 4K" for The Amazing Spiderman has some shots that are sharper with cleaner lines (basketball hoop net, traffic and highrise windows) but it is hard to tell if that is just from applying more sharpening (or possibly less blur than the 2K?).
The Lord Of The Rings trilogy also had 2K digital intermediates, it didn't stop them from going back and re-doing them for the extended editions which makes them look so much better than the theatrical cuts on blu ray, the issues with the theatrical cuts were all down to the digital intermediates as the source for the first blu ray release, the artifacts are on the DI.Vincent_P said:SPIDERMAN 3 wasn't even finished in 4K. 2 was (sans effects shots), but the DP felt that the resulting 4K "look" was too unforgiving and did the SPIDERMAN 3 DI at 2K as a result. So yeah, this is basically bullsh*t.
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I agree that the whole "Mastered in 4K" selection is there to make it seem as though there is native 4K content for 4K displays. But I do recall reading somewhere that one of the other benefits of these titles, aside from the expanded color, is that they are encoded with an algorithm that ensures that they rescale better on 4K displays (i.e. a 2K to 4K upscaling improvement). Hence the "optimized for 4K TVs" tag may actually be accurate. So if you have a 4K display, there may be a more noticeable difference between the 2K and 4K versions of these movies.cafink said:I agree with Travis. 4K mastering is great, but the huge banner and the "Optimized for 4K TVs" is very misleading, and obviously designed to take advantage of customers who don't know better.
If they are Sony (who's the one most emotionally invested in trying to convince us we like 4K), then tradition tells us Spidey 3 and Godzilla will be the first--Johnny Angell said:We're getting a bunch of 4K masters all at once. There's this, Godzilla, and 1 or 2 more that I'm forgetting. Are they all Sony?
It doesn't get the treatment first, the other two have been available for some time as mastered in 4K titles.Scott Burke said:I don't understand why spidey3 gets the treatment first. Considering it is not the best of that trilogy. It was also the first bluray if the spidey franchise.