It was a facetious exchange, Chuck. I have no opinion on (and no interest in) Speed Racer, with or without lossless audio.
I don't necessarily agree, though, that the second X-Files film will have no life on home video. I could see it doing quite well among fans who didn't want to bother seeing it in the theater. (I did and was one of the viewers who liked it.)
Both X-Files and Speed Racer will be on my shelf (I loved Speed Racer and my wife is a huge X-Files fan). However, I recognize the minority position of my opinion for each of these.
Looks like I might make SR a purchase afterall after reading the surprisingly positive review over at the Bits. I don't own a Dolby TrueHD & DTS HD Master Audio reciever yet so the lossy 5.1 track doesn't concern me...at the moment.
Hope to get one for Christmas so i'll cross that lossless bridge when I come to it. Right now i'm just glad that the image is better than we expected.
EDIT: To clarify my above statement because I know it sounds bad, the lossless track DOES indeed concern me, it should have one as standard issue on BD and it truly blows that it doesn't, I was merely stating that I can't hear it right now, that's all.
Hated it! Sorry guys but I thought it was a garish, digital effects stuffed disaster. It was an assault on the senses...but not in a good way. ..it gave me a headache it was so bad.
By far the bros.worst film. I almost bought it blind, but rented the bluray instead. Saved myself $30!
just wondering if any of you are going to buy speed racer on blu ray , because of no loseless audio? for me absolutely not , hopefully warner will see that the blu ray owners want everything that our new format offers , which includes yes , loseless audio. Does anyone know why they did this ? they used a 25g instead of 50 , why ?
Didn't this movie bomb at the theaters? I would suspect that if Warner's is "laying low" on this release, it's because they expect a one, two punch in the gut on this one. :frowning:
I won't be buying this version of the BD, specifically because of the lack of lossless audio. There is really no excuse (at least none that I would consider valid). I'll wait for the inevitable "collector's edition," complete with what I am sure will be advertised as "a new lossless audio-track, supervised by the directors!" We've seen this song and dance before, with DVD, and I for one won't be fooled this time around.
Never say never but the box office failure of the movie and the studio not taking enough effort to have loseless audio on the release makes a re-release seem to be very low on the list of WB's priorities.
Of course, it all depends on what sales are like on DVD and the initial BD release. This is the kind of movie that in the 80s would have gone gangbusters on VHS after tanking @ the box office. The same thing could happen on DVD/BD. Did I mention that Warner did a lousy job of marketing this?
That's also part of my point, albeit unsaid. If no "collector's edition" materializes, then I simply won't have ANY copy of the film. The lack of lossless audio on this type of movie specifically -- with its dismal box-office performance, eye-popping visuals and ear-thumping sound effects -- should be banking on making up any lost revenue solely through a BD release showcasing the film as demo material.
Truly a case of missed opportunity, in my opinion.
what doesn't make sense to me is that since it's not any harder to just release with lossless, why the issue needs to be here at all... regardless of the popularity of the film. :frowning:
I watched about 30 minutes of the BD, and I have to agree with TDB's review of the video. It's off the charts good. It cheats a bit by the nature of the film (lots of greenscreen and shiny CG and loads of color), but it pops in some amazing ways.
As video goes, it's demo material alongside the Pixar releases.
I'm half way though and will finish the rest tomorrow. The video is 5/5, the audio 2/5. Compared to a lossless track; it's flat, weak, and lifeless, other then some low bass moments. I'd love to own this but with such a crappy audio track, no way.
I do hope that those who aren't willing to buy it because of the lossy audio will at least consider renting it. I don't know how much weight rental figures have in determining the timing of a double-dip, since that's all we've got to hope for at this point, but those of us who love the movie would thank you for it.
I'm at least a couple of years away from lossless audio for BDs (no HDMI receiver for my PS3 yet) and I'm NOT waiting that long to acquire this (I'll keep my views on the "dramatic" differences between lossless and lossy for a more appropriate thread).