Speaker search ho-hum

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  1. BruceTM

    BruceTM Agent

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    I think I'm growing tired of searching for the perfect sounding speakers. I've begun to think that those elusive characters don't exist. Maybe, I'll just go to BB and settle for the floor standing speakers that sound best to me.

    I'm considering the Yamaha ns-555's. Ho-hum.
     
  2. Mike Sloan

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    I don't think the perfect speaker exists...but if it did...it would cost you your first born! Those NS-555's are nice...sound great with HT material!
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  3. Michael R Price

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    Bruce... where are you searching?
     
  4. Lew Crippen

    Lew Crippen Executive Producer

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    And what characteristics constitute ‘perfect’ for you?
     
  5. CurtisSC

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    And to add....

    What have you heard?
     
  6. BruceTM

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    Let me see, now. I've listened to the stable of B&W's, Paradigm, PSB, and Athenas at BB. Each of these I've found wanting in some way. The B&W's sound artificially bloated to me, the Paradigm's sound muddy or bright depending on model, and the PSB image series is also bright or harsh sounding. My son has PSB image 5ts. They sound nice on instrumental music, but really harsh with rock music. I listened to the Athenas at BB, along with the Yamaha's. I actually preferred the overall sound of the Yamaha's. I thought, though, that they weren't as clear as I would like them to be. Maybe, it was the listening environment. I don't know. I listened to Technics loudspeakers for 20 years and thought they sounded good until my son notified me they were crap. It's all his fault, and now I have this itch to upgrade, but am afraid I won't like the result. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. My speakers are old and worn out like I am.

    The characteristics I'm searching for are some floorstandings that sound real good playing music, with clarity, but without the harsh highs I hear in many of the new speakers. Bass is not an issue, since I already have a subwoofer. I also like the idea of a dedicated midrange.
     
  7. CurtisSC

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    Bruce....very interesting.

    If you are willing to go the internet route, I would suggest the Ascend Acoustics CMT-340 l/r with their custom stands. Not really a floorstander, but looks like a mini-tower with the custom stands. But from the sounds of your descriptions, I think it would be something to try. Even if I own them my self.

    Although I am not a fan of the Rocket sound, they may be what you are looking for. Check out AV123.com.
     
  8. Khoa Tran

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    Magneplanars.......
     
  9. Lew Crippen

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    Along the lines of the speaker you have listed so far I would check out the Polk RTI70. The prices have come way down and they have a wonderful sound to them. Good Luck.
     
  11. GregC

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    Given your comments, I'd recommend that you listen to Infinity, Vandersteen, and Vienna Acoustics. No info on your price range, so I've recommended a wide variety. I've searched and searched for the perfect speaker .. haven't found one yet. If you do let us all know!
     
  12. BruceTM

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    Question: Are the Yamaha ns-555/777's a quality product in your opinions? Do they compare with anything that your have heard? Thanks, in advance.
     
  13. Mike_Gr

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    I have a suggestion:

    Wharfedale Pacific Evolution

    The Evo's are clear and detailed with exceptional midrange. Bass is tight and clean. IMO, the Evo's are on the warmer side and are not bright or harsh. They do HT well, but I think they shine at when it comes to 2 channel music. They are manufactured using real wood veneers, which makes them aesthetically pleasing as well.

    IMO, their best feature is value. Their performance to cost ratio makes them an exceptional buy. I always have good things to say about the Evo's....they are simply on par with other speakers that cost considerably more.

    If you can find a dealer near you, give them an audition.
     
  14. Angelo.M

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    Bruce:

    Many good suggestions here.

    You've already listened to some very good, very high-profile contenders, which receive a lot of love around here (B&W, Paradigm, PSB), and you came away dissatisfied. I'm guessing you didn't audition them at home, with your equipment, in your listening room. That could make all the difference in the world.

    There's certainly nothing wrong with choosing the Yamaha speakers, particularly since you've done your homework and given them the highest grade sofar. Again, I'd find a way to bring them home, and see if you still like them in your setup.

    I don't get much from auditions in showrooms or noisy big-box retailers. A test drive at home is key, if you can swing it.
     
  15. Jon_Welker

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    See, Bruce, look at the can of worms you opened by starting this thread. We'll keep your rear busy for several weeks to come with all the speaker recommendations we'll throw at you. Heck, you may never get around to buying a pair. And, I agree with Angelo about the in-home audition. It truly is the best way to see what you'll like the best.

    So, when you were describing what you are looking for out of a speaker, it sounded like what my thoughts are on the NHT M5's. The M5's are usually mated with their B5 counterparts, which is a stand for them with a 12" sub in each. But, since you already have a sub, you could just get the M5's, along with some P5 pedastels (no sub) also sold by NHT.

    http://www.nhthifi.com/home_product.asp?subjectid=11

    I chose these over some Paradigm Studio 100's v2 and B$W CDM 7NT's. I had some very similar observations to yours regarding these speaker brands. NHT's are some of the cleanest, most detailed sounding speakers that I have heard for all music. I auditioned blues, rock, hip hop, techno, more rock, and even rap on them. Sounded great with everything. Also, a pair will run you just shy of $1K, so they represent an excellent value.

    Some other options to consider before giving up would be some Morduant-Short (I'm thinking about anchoring a 2nd system with some of these) and KEF (namely their XQ line - little pricey, but good overall sound). Happy Listening!!!
     
  16. BruceTM

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    Well,

    I went over to BB and grabbed a pair of Yamaha ns-555 floorstanders. There are some words that can describe my first impressions of these. Words like WOW, DYNAMIC, CLARITY. There are also some cliches which can be used, number one being I HAVE DIED AND GONE TO HEAVEN. I actually bought these to see if I would like a bright speaker. So far, so good.
     
  17. George J

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    Bruce,
    I have NS-555 for my mains from BB. I have been lurking here and on other HT forums to find out the best way to go about it. The best advice I liked was 'buy the best speakers you can afford and build your system around it progressively'. So i bought the NS-555 at an unbelievable $129 EACH (this made the pair cheaper than anything on the internet). Frankly I could not distinguish the sound quality between them and the others (JBL/Athena) when I was in BB and somehow 129 bucks really kept ringing in my ears.[​IMG]
    You will need a sub to really appreciate the whole spectrum. I have a yamaha YST-SW215, which is quite adequate for my living room.
     
  18. DavidCooper

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    Wow..who would have thought that a Yamaha speaker would sound better than Paradigm, B&W, and even Athena! Speaker listening is TRULY subjective! I'm totally amazed.
     
  19. Angelo.M

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  20. DavidCooper

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    ha ha...I didnt even notice the thread was that old!
     

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