Sony - What's Up with KWAI and LAWRENCE?

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  1. Dick

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    Your two most prestigious Oscar-winners are still M.I.A. on Blu-ray. Wanting to get these out looking their best is understandable (and desirable), but it's been a long, long time, and even last year there were intimations these would be released in 2009. Any progress?
     
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    I voted in an online Sony poll about what to release. I voted for Lawrence. It won and Sony promised to release it. They managed to have it shown on HD Net Movies but no release, yet, after 2+ years....
     
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    I don't see what the concern is all about. These two titles are gonna be released on BD. It's not a question of if, but of when. Sony's release schedule is outright dominated by their marketing department, so 90% of the reason these titles are not out yet is likely due to not having a marketing window they like. My guess is Nov-Dec 2010.
     
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    Sony never answers these threads. I don't know what's up with SONY but they sure haven't released anything old expect for a few black and white 1960s classics and some stop animiation stuff
     
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    Sony has released/has scheduled to release about the same # of their pre-90s catalog as the other major studios (Fox/MGM/Paramount) this side of Warner. If anything, Disney and Universal are the ones who need to pick up the slack. (Disney has far less catalog, and Universal is still playing Blu-ray catch-up).

    Studios by decade

    1930-1939

    Disney - 1
    Warner - 3


    1940-1949

    Disney - 2
    Fox - 1
    Paramount - 1
    Warner - 1


    1950-1959

    Disney - 1
    Fox - 4
    Sony - 4
    Warner - 7


    1960-1969

    Fox - 5
    MGM - 8
    Sony - 4
    Warner - 9


    1970-1979

    Fox - 13
    MGM - 9
    Paramount - 7
    Sony - 5
    Warner - 23


    1980-1989

    Fox - 11
    Lionsgate - 6
    MGM - 13
    Sony - 15
    Paramount - 18
    Universal - 6
    Warner - 27

    Totals

    Disney - 4
    Fox - 34
    Lionsgate - 6
    MGM - 30
    Sony - 28
    Paramount - 26
    Universal - 6
    Warner - 70
     
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    Small solace if you don't have it, but If you want to catch them, they're on HDNet Movies at least once a month (at least Lawrence is, Bridge has been on in the recent past too).
     
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    "they're on HDNet Movies at least once a month "

    Well thanks to those jerks at Time Warner Cable ,we don't get those channels anymore ,but the very good but very defective MGM HD
    channel ,and one of the worst HD channels ever MAV!!!!

    Sony can't bother with the better Lean Films when they have to rush out classic's lke "St Elmo's Fire" and "About
    Last Night" on Blue Ray
     
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    Exactly. Their is NO excuse for Lawrence of Arabia. This was their demo film for Blu-Ray when introduced in the States, oh so many year ago. Just awful Sony.

     
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    Yeah, the bastards. I say we murder 'em all.
     
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    They killed Kenny too, los bastardos!
     
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    Brandon,

    Your sarcasm and 'complain about the complainers' status are dully noted. Clearly we're not solving world hunger here but if you want to create a thread stating that you believe that studios delaying the release of important films that would benefit from a hi-def release such as Lawrence and Kwai is a good thing, I'm sure there are plenty here that would love to chime in. Otherwise, your 'could be worse, could be raining' posts are what they are.
     
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    I'm sure a new digital restoration of Bridge on the River Kwai could produce a much better transfer than what the DVD showed.
     
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    I agree it taking Sony a long time to get these out.

    I just hope that the delay with these two titles will result in outstanding transfers. They deserve nothing less. For Lawrence it would be nice to get all the extras from the original 2-disc DVD release combined with the accurately color timed transfer of the Superbit DVD in one comprehensive Blu-ray.

    I still like the packaging of the original DVD (the tweed box) and may use it for the Blu.

    Question for those who have seen LoA on HDNet: Was it OAR or cropped to 1.78:1?
     
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    HDNet is very conscientious about showing films in OAR, and it's no different with LOA. However, the transfer is rather mediocre--it's riddled with EE, and doesn't look all that detailed.
     
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    Well if that's the case I'll just wait for the BD. On most of the titles I own on both Blu and DVD any EE problems were either eliminated or greatly reduced on the Blu-ray. 2001: A Space Odyssey is a great example of this.
     
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    Just trying to bring some levity and common sense to the conversation. I know I want both films in HD, but unlike other titles that may never be released on BD, these two are 100% locks to be released. Sony knows this, and everyone else knows it. These aren't titles that will come any sooner with a fan made letter writing campaign. They'll come when Sony is good and ready to deliver them, and not a day sooner. We could turn this entire forum into the "When is Lawrence Coming Out on Blu-ray Forum" and it wouldn't make a lick of difference.

    I've also always found it a poor argument to point at other releases that are coming out as somehow preventing another film from getting released. About Last Night isn't delaying Lawrence's release by a second.
     
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    Your argument seems to be based on that this sub-forum as primarily a portal to discuss viewpoints with the studios. It's not. Nor is the film sub-forum a way of getting directors to change the way they make films. It's a sub-forum for hi-def video discussions among members. I don't give a rat's tail if someone from the studio reads them or not.

    Well, that's not one of my points. But if there are any positives to Lawrence being delayed at present, please let us know. As it is, Blu-Ray seems to have all the traction of a rainy road after the leaves have fallen. Perhaps they are patiently waiting for the 15-24 year old kids to get off Gaming and the Internet [/sarcasm tag].
     
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    Originally Posted by Rachael B
     
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    The thread is titled: "Sony - What's Up with KWAI and LAWRENCE?" My mistake for interpreting such as this thread being made with the hope of getting Sony's attention....
     
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    Nope, I stand corrected. Point taken.
     

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