Slasher Santa Display - Right or Wrong?

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  1. MarkHastings

    MarkHastings Executive Producer

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    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051214/.../slasher_santa I hardly consider this "fun". I understand the reasoning behind it, but I think it is in poor taste to make this kind of protest.

    If it were in a place where only adults see it, I would be a little less repulsed, but shouldn't we have some kind of moral ethics when it comes to the kids?

    Let the kids (and their families) judge how commercial Christmas is, don't go trying to horrify them.

    Poor taste, IMHO!
     
  2. Scott L

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    they just want attention, and it's working
     
  3. Joe Szott

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    I think it's fine, I mean what the heck. It's his house after all, he can celebrate as he wishes.

    Might be a good idea to put up a sign that explains what it is about though, so people can know what you intended instead of just speculating. Most people when told what it was intended to mean would probably be OK with it.
     
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    So thats where the director of Silent Night Deadly Night lives!


    I don't know about an album cover, but I'd certainly buy a roll of 100 "Santa Claus Slasher" Christmas stamps from the post office. [​IMG]
     
  6. MarkHastings

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    I agree that the commercialisation is insane, but it's not my place (nor anyone elses) to make a "holier than thou" protest for all to see. Again, if you're against the commercialisation, please promote good will. Don't promote it by spewing disgust. Spewing disgust isn't good will and the guy (from the article) is not a purveyor of good will.


    p.s. If you can't tell, I have a thing about protesting [​IMG]
     
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    Heh. Someone with a Simpsons sig basically saying "think of the children!" without irony.
     
  8. MarkHastings

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    LOL - I watch the Simpsons day and night, but when my ex girlfriend's cousins used to come to my place (they ranged from 4-8), I NEVER put it on.

    I didn't feel it was appropriate. Just like swearing. I never swear around children.



    A little common courtesy, that's all I'm askin' for [​IMG]
     
  9. Joe Szott

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    He never said it had anything to do with goodwill, sounds in fact like he wanted to raise awareness and spark discussions about the secular commercialization of Xmas. And here we are across the USA and Canada posting in a debate about the commercialization of Xmas and a person's right to freedom of expression. Go ahead and post a retort, it just proves the point again. [​IMG]

    Plus he didn't donate to a charity because no one really gives a s^&* about that. How many threads here are devoted to anyone giving $100 to a charity? I'd bet not a single one.

    He did something controversial to spark a discussion. How can we possibly argue that he didn't succeed?
     
  10. Malcolm R

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    Personally, I'm getting tired of others trying to force everyone to make everything in life centered around what is "good for the children".
     
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    pff, it's been done [​IMG]

    CJ
     
  12. MarkHastings

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    I'm not arguing that. I even encourage it. Without this conversation, people may have a different take on the story. I am (in my little way) trying to show the other side of this guys protest. You can't have a conversation if there isn't another side. I'm the other side and I think this guys protest is wrong and he doesn't have a clue about the statement he's trying to make.

    Anyone can make a statement. I just have a problem when your statement does more harm than intended.

    As was stated earlier, attention whores don't do a bit of good.
     
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    Eh, the guy has the right to do whatever he wants. Then again, I'd probably also encourage my kids not to trick or treat at his house, and never, ever accept a ride from him (just in case). [​IMG]

    But if the ongoing attention to the neighborhood I lived in was bad (ie "who wants to live by that neighbor") and impacted the sell value of my house, oh, then I'd be unhappy [​IMG]
     
  14. Marko Berg

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    I can understand the point he's trying to make about the commercialization of Christmas, but he's wrong in saying it's originally a religious holiday. I'm sure he just means that's what Christmas really means to him, yet it's a bit ironic because of the pagan origin of Christmas in many parts of the world.
     
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    The pagan RELIGIOUS origins of some Xmas practices...[​IMG]

    The Slasher Santa thing is offensive to me simply because it's really BAD art.
     
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    Correct, I should've pointed that out myself. But do you believe this guy who has a beef with Christmas being commercialized wouldn't have a problem with a Voodoo themed Christmas with Santa raising the dead? [​IMG]

    Perhaps not; based on the display, that's what he'd like Christmas to be about...
     
  17. MarkHastings

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    I just had a friend who was going through the whole "What's the meaning of Christmas? The commercialization sucks!" thing.

    I basically told her that the commercialization of Christmas is OK! Gifts are meant to invoke joy and laughter so that you remember Christmas as a "special" time of the year.

    Family, friends, the lights, the colors, the smells, the gifts, the food!...It's all meant to excite the senses and create a sort of 'hyper reality' - and that's OK!!!!

    The stores may commercialize Christmas, but they're in it to sell things, and that's ok too. It's only bad when you put WAY too much emphasis on the gifts.

    These people, who make protests of the commerciaization, really burn my chaps because they dont' seem to understand the real meaning behind it all.

    IMHO [​IMG]
     
  18. MichaelBA

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    Perhaps some of those people want everyone to focus on the birth of JC as the "real" meaning of Xmas. Is that legit?

    I'm not sure what the Slasher Santa people want, though.
     
  19. MarkHastings

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    Bashing the Santa end of Christmas (to promote JC birthday) isn't right, IMO.

    If you think Christmas is too commercialized....fine, but if I chose to find no fault in it, don't go trying to tell me I'm a bad person by choosing to celebrate it that way.

    Basically that guy is saying that anyone who buys into the hype of Christmas, is slaughtering childrens innocence. Can you blame me for being offended at such a ludicrous statement? Who's he to tell me that I'm a bad person for doing such a thing?

    This thread reminds me a lot of Buzz's thread about the anti-Halloween neighbors (with whom I venomously disagreed with as well).
     
  20. MichaelBA

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    Why does that sound like a double entendre?
     

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