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And don't count on BBC airing a good chunk of TOTOP episodes again, after the fact that Jimmy Savile was a predatory paedophile (as the British pronounce it) went public.
Well, sadly, large blocks of TOTP reruns (or from any other "old" show for that matter) aren't likely on British TV anytime soon for far more across-the-board reasons than Jimmy Saville. Sadly, the UK have followed the example of US broadcast/cable stations in that "classic" reruns are now few and far between, or relegated to channels with low viewership. In the '90s, there was a vast amount of vintage UK and US reruns on British telly (I have the off-air VHS tapes to prove it), but now, reruns of vintage shows are now more a rarity than something you can count on, and the UK stations are now like the US ones in another way: they edit old shows for time now, as well.IntoIt said:And don't count on BBC airing a good chunk of TOTOP episodes again, after the fact that Jimmy Savile was a predatory paedophile (as the British pronounce it) went public.
Neil,Neil Brock said:Since the discussion has turned to British shows, what is the know fate of Top of the Pops from the 60s, early 70s? Also, what about Ready Steady Go?
Simplistic question but why? is it completely $'s related or some other issue?Neil Brock said:From what I've been told, hundreds exist but Bob Barker prevented anything from being done with them, either on GSN or DVD.
Is there any chance for us to see that special on DVD?Jack P said:I was going through my personal collection of CBS coverage of the JFK Assassination (from CBS News Archives) and found an unusual item that may have resulted in a "lost" TV special being preserved inadvertently.
On the morning following the assassination, CBS signed on first with the CBS Morning News anchored by Mike Wallace. Then they broke from the news coverage for an hour and decided to repeat a special "Let Freedom Ring" that first aired December 31, 1961 and starred Richard Boone, Dan O'Herlihy, Laraine Day and Howard Keel doing dramatic readings of patriotic speeches with the Mormon Tabernacle Choir doing patriotic songs. Evidently, CBS felt the need to show something that could let Americans still feel good about their country in the face of such a horrific tragedy. What struck me was how this special I am certain was not preserved in terms of its original master tape by CBS but is an insight into how they would have still been holding onto them for a time after the initial broadcast to use for a purpose like they did by reairing it during the JFK coverage. And in so doing, we have a copy of this special that you could never see made again in today's world, preserved for all time in its original videotape state thanks to CBS News preserving all of the assassination coverage (this also being the reason for why the "As The World Turns" episode that CBS interrupted to break news of the shooting was also preserved in terms of what was shown to the country that day).
He's confusing the reason why Truth or Consequences is never rerun (the Ralph Edwards estate demanding too much) with the reason many Price is Right episodes will never be seen again (fur coats).Frank Soyke said:Simplistic question but why? is it completely $'s related or some other issue?
From what I've heard, it is all Bob Barker's wishes.Lord Dalek said:He's confusing the reason why Truth or Consequences is never rerun (the Ralph Edwards estate demanding too much) with the reason many Price is Right episodes will never be seen again (fur coats).
Doubtful, but I've since discovered the Paley Center has a copy one can view though it doesn't indicate if its a tape master or a kinescope. When CBS aired it originally on New Year's Eve 1961 it was in an afternoon timeslot as part of Sunday afternoon programming (the NFL season being over by then).oldtvshowbuff said:Is there any chance for us to see that special on DVD?
I sure hope there's no stipulation about that in his will.Neil Brock said:From what I've heard, it is all Bob Barker's wishes.
I'm pretty sure you're mistaken about Barker being the hold-up for Truth or Consequences. I'm fairly confident it's legal issues with the Edwards estate (either high fees as Lord Dalek suggests or some other copyright-related problem).Neil Brock said:From what I've heard, it is all Bob Barker's wishes.
I think part of what was said was that his wife helped keep his ego "in-check", but with her gone, there was no one to reign him in.Jack P said:Many say that Barker started to become more of a tyrant after his wife died in the early 80s, which was also when he began his fling with Dian. In my case, I stop collecting episodes after he stopped dying his hair which is when his obnoxious qualities started to become more evident.
IIRC, there were no hi-def Barker episodes, and TPIR didn't go hi-def or widescreen until a year or so into the Drew Carey run.AndyMcKinney said:Fat chance of any GSN reruns of the show (in any form) now, though, since CBS didn't want them on GSN anymore (didn't want old episodes competing with the new ones). Only chance will be if the show is ever cancelled and then, given GSN's aversion to most older programming now, would probably consist entirely of Drew Carey-hosted shows (or later high-def Barker shows).
I would change "'80s" to "'70s". Those garish oranges that dominated the sets! Those old fonts! Et cetera.The Obsolete Man said:I also believe the reason so many set changes occurred over a relatively short period was because Barker as executive producer was a major part in keeping the show's look locked in the 80s, and once he was gone, they had room to play with upgrading things.
Is it true that Let's Make A Deal falls under this CBS edict as well now?Fat chance of any GSN reruns of the show (in any form) now, though, since CBS didn't want them on GSN anymore (didn't want old episodes competing with the new ones). Only chance will be if the show is ever cancelled and then, given GSN's aversion to most older programming now, would probably consist entirely of Drew Carey-hosted shows (or later high-def Barker shows).