Second Chorus on Blu-Ray - a fan's review of Astaire film

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  1. JoHud

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    Also An American in Paris, which was the first Kelly film to be released on blu-ray.

    What's holding up most of the Astair/Rogers films is likely the RKO elements which relatively need more time and effort to fully restore than the Warner Brothers films and most of the MGM titles. We'll probably see more of the color Astair films in the future. However, it seems WB is being a bit too selective on what it releases on blu-ray, generally limiting new releases to the perennial classics. Hopefully, we see more in the near future.
     
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    As both Funny Face and Daddy Long Legs are already out on BRD in France, I imagine it's only a matter of time before they are available in Zone A as well.
     
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    I agree we don't need extras for Fred's material .... what we have is sweet enough.
    So far I have Easter Parade, Daddy Long Legs and Funny Face on Blu ray, but I want all the Fred and Ginger pairings, and Three Little Words and The Bandwagon are musts. Bring them on......
     
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    I quite like Second Chorus but I'm not willing to give this title a try on Blu ray after reading earlier in the thread about the way the sound has been degraded. Why are people with tin-ears allowed to work on these titles?
     
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    One look at "You'll Never Get Rich" or "You Were Never Lovelier" will confirm that the beautiful and sexy Rita Hayworth was Fred's greatest partner.
    Well that's just my opinion. :rolleyes:

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    AGREED!!!
     
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    My opinion is, always has been, and always will be Vera-Ellen. I will put Leslie Caron next (lovely cover picture on the French Daddy Long Legs blu-ray - I would put it up if I knew how!).
     
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    I have to agree. Her small stature makes him the perfect partner for her.

    Rita was a wonderful dancer, but I never felt she knew what to do with her hands when she danced. They always seem a little awkward to me compared to Vera-Ellen, Cyd Charisse, and Ginger Rogers.
     
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    Here you go Keith.

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    Actually he had many great partners, but who was his worst?

    Betty Hutton, Joan Leslie or Joan Fontaine?
     
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    I'd go with with either Betty Hutton or Joan Fontaine.

    I think that Joan Leslie had a good rapport with Fred in the acting part of The Sky's The Limit, and was decent in the musical numbers.

    Fontaine's film is better than Hutton's (IMO), which makes it hard to judge between the two.

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    rita hayworth is my favorite female dancer, i've never seen anyone move thru space with such grace.

    while fred never confimed it publicly, he seems to have told many people in his circle (david niven, dancer donna mckechnie who writes this in her memoirs) that rita was his favorite dance partner.

    however i LOVE vera-ellen, was just watching some of her dance routines on youtube last week.

    with fred astaire being my all-time favorite screen performer, i find that admiration has expanded to trained DANCERS being my favorite type of performer--- when you look at classic hollywood you can see that very few achieved top stardom.

    the few that did were spectacular talents!
     
  12. Keith Cobby

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    Thanks for the cover picture Doug. I couldn't decided whether to buy the French or German edition and went for the French because I liked the cover!
     
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    Are there any reviews or picture/sound comparison reports on the French and German Blu-rays that you are aware of Keith?

    Does anyone know if the French disc has removable subtitles?
     
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    Regarding Daddy Long LegsI have heard (from fellow member Roger Grodsky) that the French version is Region B locked.Keith stated (in another thread) that the subtitles on the French version are removable once you start watching the film.I do not know about the German version.
     
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    I haven't seen any comparable reviews but the amazon.fr reviews were good.

    My experience with French blu-rays is that some have removable sub-titles via the menus while others have to be removed using the remote control. I used the 'display' button.on my Panasonic remote.
     
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    Thanks for the info Guys.

    I might wait a little longer and see if it makes it to the UK or US.


    +++ Add Paulette Goddard to the list of Fred's worst partners.+++
     
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    Daddy Long Legs - French BD - from memory you choose either French or Original English with sub-titles. As the film starts you can then switch the subtitles off. I seem to recall I sampled this title when I purchased it, in one of my BluRay machines switched to Region A and it played, so I assume it must be region free.
     
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    I just found a listing for Holiday Inn on Amazon.DE, so Universal is releasing that film in Germany in October.

    Hopefully, we might also get a US release in time for Christmas.
     
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    From memory my Daddy Long Legs from France played fine on my Oppo when it was still coded Region A. And the subtitles are removable via the remote.

    As for Fred's greatest partner, I love Rita and Leslie and Vera, but they all pale beside the wonderful Ginger -- just watched a 720p Gay Divorcee a couple of days ago (which I'll chuck out as soon as a Blu ray arrives!) and she is still just so so beautiful. I also enjoy her non-dancing role (well, almost non-dancing) in Billy Wilder's very underrated comedy 'The Major and the Minor' alongside Ray Milland .. a favourite movie.
     
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    I agree Anthony, when I watch Fred dance with Ginger I see 2 halves of one person (if that makes any sense). They just mesh so flawlessly. They make dancing look so simple. However, one of my favorite dance sequences (there are many) is Fred and CC doing the Dancing in the Dark number from Band Wagon. What a beautiful dance and song. It makes me want to take dance lessons so I can do this with my wife!
     
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