Paul_Scott
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i'm probably going to sound like a snob (what else is new). but the subject of the Criterion version of the Rock came up and the person asked if he should buy that or some other title.
To me, The Rock is one of the weakest action movies i've ever seen for many reasons.
yes i will agree the 'action' scenes are well choreographed and nice and glossy, but the characters and situation and patriotic posturing are so damned inane, i can't view the movie as anything but obnoxious drivel.
so then i was asked to list some of the action movies that i thought were better, so they would know where i was coming from.
i thought a few minutes and came up with this short list;
The Great Escape
Bridge On The River Kwai
The Professionals
Bite the Bullet (really more adventure than action)
Bend Of The River ( " ")
The Train
The Bourne Identity
Raiders Of The Lost Ark
Sahara( the Bogart version)
with the couple qualifications noted, i was pretty satisfied with this list as it represents to me movies that not only have gunplay and explosions, but also well drawn characters who behave in intelligent and believable ways (this is where The Rock fails miserably for me).
beyond these though, i had a hard time racking my brain.
especially trying to find movies that fit the term 'action' in the more contemporary meaning of the word.
a few more that i came up with were
Hard Times (not much on guns or explosions, but some rough bare knuckle brawling)
Mr Majestyk
The Guns Of Navarone
so based on the criteria of good stories having believable characters taking precedence over the explosions and mayhem, what titles would you add to a list like this?
edited to add a running list of the suggestions so far
The Dirty Dozen
The Getaway
La Femme Nikita
Leon: The Professional
The French Connection
Die Hard (1,2,3)*
Ronin
Hard Boiled
The Killer
Police Story 2: Supercop
The Road Warrior
Lethel Weapon (1,2)
Saving Private Ryan
The Fugitive
The Rock
Mad Max
The Day of the Jackal
The Taking of Pelham One Two Three
The Towering Inferno
Three Days of the Condor
Marathon Man
The Parallax View
48 Hours
Rififi
From Russia With Love
Goldfinger
(most of the Bond movies as a matter of fact)
Bullitt
Where Eagles Dare
The Thomas Crown Affair (both versions)
Patton
Tora! Tora! Tora!
The Poseidon Adventure
Air Force One
The Replacement Killers
Rush Hour
Blade
Entrapment
X-Men
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
Enemy at the Gate
Under Siege
The Hunt for Red October
Gettysburg
Cliffhanger
Speed
True Lies
Crimson Tide
Black Hawk Down
Cliffhanger
Demolition Man
Equilibrium
Gone in Sixty Seconds (1974)
The Long Kiss Goodnight
Mad Max
The Road Warrior
Speed
The Negotiator
Terminator
Pulp Fiction
Heat
Big Trouble in Little China
Tango & Cash
Young Guns
Total Recall
The Running Man
Silverado (good western action)
Tombstone
U-571
El Mariachi
Desperado
Once Upon a Time in Mexico
The Thing
Brotherhood of the Wolf
Rambo trilogy (the first in particular)
The Mask of Zorro
Commando
North By Northwest
Enter the Dragon
Chinese Connection
Fists of Fury
Return of the Dragon
Lawrence of Arabia
The Hunted
Lord of the Rings trilogy
Reservoir Dogs
Scorpion King
Gladiator
Gangs of New York
The Patriot
Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves
Apocolypse Now
Full Metal Jacket
Robocop
Under Siege
The Quick and the Dead
Independence Day
Fight Club
Jurassic Park and Lost World
Braveheart
True Romance
S.W.A.T.
Spartacus
Marked For Death
The Last Boy Scout
Rob Roy
To me, The Rock is one of the weakest action movies i've ever seen for many reasons.
yes i will agree the 'action' scenes are well choreographed and nice and glossy, but the characters and situation and patriotic posturing are so damned inane, i can't view the movie as anything but obnoxious drivel.
so then i was asked to list some of the action movies that i thought were better, so they would know where i was coming from.
i thought a few minutes and came up with this short list;
The Great Escape
Bridge On The River Kwai
The Professionals
Bite the Bullet (really more adventure than action)
Bend Of The River ( " ")
The Train
The Bourne Identity
Raiders Of The Lost Ark
Sahara( the Bogart version)
with the couple qualifications noted, i was pretty satisfied with this list as it represents to me movies that not only have gunplay and explosions, but also well drawn characters who behave in intelligent and believable ways (this is where The Rock fails miserably for me).
beyond these though, i had a hard time racking my brain.
especially trying to find movies that fit the term 'action' in the more contemporary meaning of the word.
a few more that i came up with were
Hard Times (not much on guns or explosions, but some rough bare knuckle brawling)
Mr Majestyk
The Guns Of Navarone
so based on the criteria of good stories having believable characters taking precedence over the explosions and mayhem, what titles would you add to a list like this?
edited to add a running list of the suggestions so far
The Dirty Dozen
The Getaway
La Femme Nikita
Leon: The Professional
The French Connection
Die Hard (1,2,3)*
Ronin
Hard Boiled
The Killer
Police Story 2: Supercop
The Road Warrior
Lethel Weapon (1,2)
Saving Private Ryan
The Fugitive
The Rock
Mad Max
The Day of the Jackal
The Taking of Pelham One Two Three
The Towering Inferno
Three Days of the Condor
Marathon Man
The Parallax View
48 Hours
Rififi
From Russia With Love
Goldfinger
(most of the Bond movies as a matter of fact)
Bullitt
Where Eagles Dare
The Thomas Crown Affair (both versions)
Patton
Tora! Tora! Tora!
The Poseidon Adventure
Air Force One
The Replacement Killers
Rush Hour
Blade
Entrapment
X-Men
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
Enemy at the Gate
Under Siege
The Hunt for Red October
Gettysburg
Cliffhanger
Speed
True Lies
Crimson Tide
Black Hawk Down
Cliffhanger
Demolition Man
Equilibrium
Gone in Sixty Seconds (1974)
The Long Kiss Goodnight
Mad Max
The Road Warrior
Speed
The Negotiator
Terminator
Pulp Fiction
Heat
Big Trouble in Little China
Tango & Cash
Young Guns
Total Recall
The Running Man
Silverado (good western action)
Tombstone
U-571
El Mariachi
Desperado
Once Upon a Time in Mexico
The Thing
Brotherhood of the Wolf
Rambo trilogy (the first in particular)
The Mask of Zorro
Commando
North By Northwest
Enter the Dragon
Chinese Connection
Fists of Fury
Return of the Dragon
Lawrence of Arabia
The Hunted
Lord of the Rings trilogy
Reservoir Dogs
Scorpion King
Gladiator
Gangs of New York
The Patriot
Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves
Apocolypse Now
Full Metal Jacket
Robocop
Under Siege
The Quick and the Dead
Independence Day
Fight Club
Jurassic Park and Lost World
Braveheart
True Romance
S.W.A.T.
Spartacus
Marked For Death
The Last Boy Scout
Rob Roy