reciever or seperate amp.

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  1. DerrikW

    DerrikW Stunt Coordinator

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    Hey I have a question for ya. Actually I'm asking for your opinion. I currently have a pioneer 811, and am thinking about upgrading to either the denon 3802, yamaha 2300, elite 45tx, or onkyo 800, they are all roughly in the same price range. Another thing I thought about doing was instead of buying a reciever was to buy a parsound 855, or the parasound 1205, and use the 811 as pre/pro. I can get the 855 for considerably less and the 1205 for about the same as the recievers mentioned. Which route do you think would result in better sound quality, and more power. I will be powering monitor 7, mini monitors, and a cc-370, so which ever route I pick will have to be 4 ohm stable, since my monitor 7's and I think the mini monitors are 4 ohms. Sorry this got so long. I just want to get the best upgrade I can for my money. Thanks for any comments you may have. You can email me if you want to at dweyrauch@yahoo.com
     
  2. Spencer J

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    Derrik --

    I know where your'e coming from. I'm on the path to separates, and just bought an Outlaw 7100 amp to drive with my Sony V555ES. The difference in sound is quite shocking.

    In terms of flexibility, versatility, and quality, I'm now convinced that there aren't too many high-end receivers that can better moderately-priced separates.

    Then again, I have been mistaken in the past.[​IMG]
     
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    I thought all Paradigm Monitor Series Speakers were 8ohms. Anyone know the answer.
     
  4. ChadLB

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    The monitor 7's say that they are Compatible with 8 ohms.
     
  5. DerrikW

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    The monitor 7's and all of the monitor series say that they are compatible with 8 ohms. So I thought that they were 8 ohms, but with a recent discussion I had with my dealer he told me that my 7's were actually 4 ohm, and that most of the monitor series are actually between 4 and 8 ohms. So when I got home I hooked up an ohm meter and guess what I got, 3.3 ohms. This got me curious to see what my other monitors were and heres what I got, mini monitors 4.1 ohms, cc-370 7.9 ohms. If anybody else has the same speakers try it once and see what you get.
     
  6. Steve_Moo

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    How does that all work then with the 8 or 4 ohms. I have a Acurus A125x5 Amp Driving my Paradigms which is capable of handling 4 ohms. How does it know which speakers are 4 ohms and which are 8 ohms? If I have the Mini Monitors and also a CC370 wouldn't the Mini's sound louder then the CC370 since the CC370 is a 8 ohm speaker compared the Mini's 4 Ohms.

    I know the amp puts out 125w per channel at 8 ohms and 200w per channel at 4 ohms. I'm a little confused on the ohm issue with speakers, amps and surround processors. My Processor is a Rotel RSP-976 if that makes a difference.

    Steve
     
  7. Jason GT

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    I'm not an electrical engineer or really a tech-knowlegeable audiophile, but putting an ohmmeter across a speaker is not an indication of the speaker's impedance rating.

    Impedance varies with the signal; in a speaker it will jump up or down depending on what signal it is fed with.

    When it comes to impedances, trusting the manufacturer usually isn't a bad thing. This is NOT something that a manufacturer would like to lie about.
     
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    Due to the nature of crossovers I would say using an ohm meter would not give good results.
     
  9. Frank Carter

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    I think adding either of the Parasound amps would give much better sound than putting the money into another receiver. I know someone on the board who prefers the *measely* 85 watt amplifier of the HCA-855a to the 110 watts of the Harman Kardon flagship AVR8000.

    I also much prefer the HCA-855a it to the amplifier's in the Harman Kardon AVR-520. Don't let the power ratings fool you. I believe the 855a puts out 125 watts x 5 when running in 4 ohms also.
     

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