Question on the Pioneer DVD-A players - 47Ai and 45A

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  1. Michael_T

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    I am considering "upgrading" from the Technics DVD-A10 to a newer DVD-Audio player.

    I went to a local home-theater/stereo store where they had the two Pioneer players, 45A and 47Ai, as well as the Integra 9.3.

    I got to play around with all three players, but couldn't make an informed decision on sound quality since I was so focused on use-ability. That is what my question is based on.

    It appears that I couldn't change "GROUPS" on any DVD-Audio disc without digging down into the GUI/onscreen menus. My Technics easily changes Groups and Audio (stereo vs. MCH) via the remote - so that for 99% of the many DVD-Audio discs I own I do not need to use the TV monitor.

    Can you change groups on the Pioneer machines without having to navigate the on-screen menu system?

    Also, another feature that the Technics does is tell you exactly what you are playing just by looking at the players front panel and display. A specific light goes on when it plays 2-ch material and another for MCH. In addition a push of the Audio button will scroll the type of audio you are listening to, i.e., 96 24 6ch, etc. It appears the Pioneer's front panel display gives you no clue as to what kind of disc you are playing unless you have your TV on to show the on-screen display.

    Is there any way for the Pioneer machines to display exactly what kind of disc you are playing on the front panel display and at what resolution and bit depth?

    Thanks in advance for you answers.
     
  2. Brian L

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    I think the answer is no on both questions.

    I have a 45a. To select groups requires entry into the menus (as far as I can tell). I suppose it might be possible by doing some sort of a search (haven't ried it, haven't checked the manual), but I think that would be as big a pain as going into the menu.

    As for telling what is playing on the front panel, you get some info, but not a lot. When a DVD-A is playing, it will indicate what "Group" is selected, which is the only way to tell that it is in fact a DVD-A. For SCAD and CD, it shows what "Track".

    There is also a DTS and DD indicator for DVD-V, but thats about it. You will need a monitor to see any details about what is playing (format, media type, number of channels, resolution, etc.).

    None of this has been a big problem in my rig for a couple of reasons. I normally always play the MC mix, which is what normally defaults. And, I do have a display so if I do want to switch, no biggy.

    That said, I can easily see why the lack of a decent front panel display would be a show stopper (or at least a big PITA) for a lot of users.

    BGL
     
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    I have the 45DV-A and I really don't think it's a big thing to know what I'm playing. I think you are getting a little picky. As far as switching from 2-ch to MC you have go into the initial settings to switch(SACD). I will say the output section of the Pioneer is better than the Technics. This and the fact that it is a universal player is all I needed. As far as DVD-A is concerned it does default to the MC setting, but that is a fault of the software specs not the hardware.
     
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    I am using the Integra 8.3 which I think is what you are referring to. I have not found a way to change groups on the front panel or by remote. But, the front display will show which group it is playing(seems to defer to dvd-audio when available not dts or dolby). It will also allow you to see the bitrate but not the freq/sampling by pressing the display button. It has a very nice front panel display showing you exactly which channels are being output. There is another row of the words SACD, DVD, and CD which has an amber light in front of each to signify format.
     
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    Gary & Brian

    What is the picture quality of the 45a? Are you using progressive or interlaced? I know it is supposed to have the chroma bug, but can you see it? I presently have a JVC, but I want to upgrade. I am interested in this unit but I am unsure about the video quality.
     
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