PANIC ROOM - What to Believe?

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  1. GerardoHP

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    I'm dying to get this title on DVD. But today I was crushed to read a review criticizing the DVD's sound performance. I gotta wonder if this is going to be one of those titles that make their debut in haunted form (SUSPIRIA, DIE HARD WITH A VENGEANCE, SOUND OF MUSIC, etc.)
    This is that review: http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/read.php?ID=4575
    I'm eager to hear the opinion of those who pre-ordered it.
    Also, has there been talk of a Special Edition of this movie in the future?
    Thanks.
     
  2. Mike Capulli

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    I think alot of it has to do with the movie itself. These guys are comparing Panic Room to Resident Evil. First off Resident Evil's soundtrack is full of guns, zombies, monsters, killer trainrides and a rockin soundtrack. Although Panic Room is definitely a better flick, The soundtrack doesn't have much going on. This doesn't mean the DVD mastering/authoring is bad, but this is probably as good as Panic Room can get. Its a very quiet creepy movie. Its not Independence Day or Pearl Harbor.

    This is almost similar to the special edition of Reservoir Dogs. The movie rules bigtime. But what is the point of remastering and remixing for DTS? The movie is all dialog!
     
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    Actually, Damin, there's some confusion as to which DVD (1st or SE) is OAR
    http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...0&pagenumber=1
    Based on this, I'd have to say the original disc should be in my collection.
    Nick, it's not so much that ONLY action movies should have DTS, but that NOT EVERY MOVIE needs to have DTS. I wonder what criteria, if any, was used to justify this. Was it that same criteria that "sweetened" the DD soundtrack as well. It just sounds like someone decided to throw in EVERYTHING, choosing quantity over quality (and I'm not going to get into a debate of DD quality over DTS quality)
     
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    My point exactly! I'd rather have the 1st release, which looks much better in many respects, than the OAR SE.

    About the only thing going for this disc is its anamorphic transfer. An anamorphic transfer may add more "resolution", but it doesn't necessarily guarantee a better picture

    I had this dilemma with Predator. The new release had DTS (not important) and an anamorphic transfer. Unfortunately, it was an anamorphic transfer of the source used for the 1st DVD, which wasn't so great to begin with. It was quantity over quality again. Even if I had a widescreen tv (someday), this would not have been enough to sway me.
     
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    Agreeing with Nick here.

    One of the best DTS Soundtracks I have ever heard was the Red Violin DTS. And that movie is far from an action movie.
    DTS sound does not have to be guns and special effects to sound good...

    Kenneth
     
  11. Eric_R_C

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    And if you read my response, you'll see that you are NOT disagreeing with me, either.

    I might ask, though. How many people do you know bought The Red Violin specifically because it was DTS? Was this what made YOU buy it? Would you have bought it if it were only DD?
     
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    Panic Room has a DTS track; so it must sound incredible! What's the problem?! [​IMG]
     
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    Amen, Mike

    DTS, in and of itself, is no guarantee of great sound.
     
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    What I believe is that within 90 days CTHV will announce the SE with the commentary and additional stuff that was supposed to be here. I'm not biting this time, guys. No sale. Even though I loved the movie, I'll wait till you do it right. [​IMG]
     
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    The use of sound in this movie is subtle and atmospheric at times, obvious and overwhelming at others. To me, the DTS track clarified both the dialogue, much of which is ambience-dependent (voices sound different depending on the room in which the characters are), and the mixtures of sound, such as the cries gradually blending with the rainstorm outside. It had clarity and punch when needed, and was on the whole beautifully done.

    That said, I'd be p.o.'ed too if a special edition comes out in a year or so.
     
  19. Mike Capulli

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    Just picked it up for 15bucks. The DTS track sounds fine.
     
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    well,

    the cover is THIN = SHODDY.

    the included teaser is 2.0 letterbox (compared to the 16x9 5.1 trailer on their other discs) - SHODDY!

    There is NO SB logo on disc = you wouldn't know it was Superbit.

    The opening picture is ASTOUNDING.

    The sound is muted. Not low, but not as dynamic as FIGHT CLUB in terms of design. Listenable but not impressive (high end seems muffled).

    Movie - ok I suppose, tad preditable, and no twists (doing the MNS trend).
     

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