dave alan
Second Unit
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- Aug 30, 2002
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"...trying to point out that the 950 isn't the best thing since sliced bread." you forgot to add, "in my opinion".
in my opinion, the IS the best thing since sliced bread...that's why i own one. also my opinion, of all the head units of any kind i've listened to over the years, sony and yamaha, though they seem well built and certainly have a big audience, are the thinnest, lowest quality sound producers. maybe i have a tin ear...maybe those who own them grow accustomed to them after adjusting their systems to them...i don't know...the point is, it is simply my opinion and so, not really worth much. certainly, at least, i wouldn't express my thoughts on the subject as though i'm pointing out a fact.
next up the ladder (again, in my opinion), are the denon, onkyo, marantz, h/k receivers. all good companies providing products for a specifically targeted demographic.
i think, that if you have an entry level system of player, speakers and amplifiers, you will not notice "as much a difference as you expected" simply by replacing your old receiver with the 950. it's not a magic box. it should be coupled with an entire system equal to it's abilities to assess it properly.
think of it this way. when has anyone visited a high-end shop to listen to a krell, lexicon, integra research, etc. that was connected to bookshelf speakers, a 100 watt sub, a dvd player from 4 years ago that doesn't pass dts signal and a hodge-podge of mismatched amps or 75 wpc multi amp?
and you never will. the opposite will be true and those prepros will be demoed through the best equipment the store has to offer...rightly so.
take your 950 to such a shop, if you really want to know how it performs, and play it with the same set up that the krell controls. every format. i'm not saying the 950 will be "better", or win some sort of prize, i'm only saying it's smart...and, the only way to truly be critical.
if you are looking for the 950 to improve the rest of your system, it won't. it will do the opposite. it will accent it's weaknesses. if you read the posts of those who are happy with the 950, you'll notice that generally, they have above average systems. conversely, generally, those who complain have much less to work with.
i'm quite proud of the fact that i'm a schooled musician who has played professionally for 36 years (my first session gig in a studio was at 13 yrs. old, so i'm not THAT old yet). i've had the pleasure of hearing every conceivable playback system in every conceivable environment. manley, apogee, etc. adc/dac's that cost 9,000 for 2 channels. the krells dac's pale in comparison. i wouldn't ever buy a krell thinking it should convert on a par with apogee's best.
my ears are not tin. i did compare. the 950 is an excellent product. the better your entire system, the more it is evident. this is my not so humble opinion. if i omitted your pet piece of equipment, if i offended anyone and if seem anything other than a person who did his homework and is defending that fact, i ever so humbly apologize.
in my opinion, the IS the best thing since sliced bread...that's why i own one. also my opinion, of all the head units of any kind i've listened to over the years, sony and yamaha, though they seem well built and certainly have a big audience, are the thinnest, lowest quality sound producers. maybe i have a tin ear...maybe those who own them grow accustomed to them after adjusting their systems to them...i don't know...the point is, it is simply my opinion and so, not really worth much. certainly, at least, i wouldn't express my thoughts on the subject as though i'm pointing out a fact.
next up the ladder (again, in my opinion), are the denon, onkyo, marantz, h/k receivers. all good companies providing products for a specifically targeted demographic.
i think, that if you have an entry level system of player, speakers and amplifiers, you will not notice "as much a difference as you expected" simply by replacing your old receiver with the 950. it's not a magic box. it should be coupled with an entire system equal to it's abilities to assess it properly.
think of it this way. when has anyone visited a high-end shop to listen to a krell, lexicon, integra research, etc. that was connected to bookshelf speakers, a 100 watt sub, a dvd player from 4 years ago that doesn't pass dts signal and a hodge-podge of mismatched amps or 75 wpc multi amp?
and you never will. the opposite will be true and those prepros will be demoed through the best equipment the store has to offer...rightly so.
take your 950 to such a shop, if you really want to know how it performs, and play it with the same set up that the krell controls. every format. i'm not saying the 950 will be "better", or win some sort of prize, i'm only saying it's smart...and, the only way to truly be critical.
if you are looking for the 950 to improve the rest of your system, it won't. it will do the opposite. it will accent it's weaknesses. if you read the posts of those who are happy with the 950, you'll notice that generally, they have above average systems. conversely, generally, those who complain have much less to work with.
i'm quite proud of the fact that i'm a schooled musician who has played professionally for 36 years (my first session gig in a studio was at 13 yrs. old, so i'm not THAT old yet). i've had the pleasure of hearing every conceivable playback system in every conceivable environment. manley, apogee, etc. adc/dac's that cost 9,000 for 2 channels. the krells dac's pale in comparison. i wouldn't ever buy a krell thinking it should convert on a par with apogee's best.
my ears are not tin. i did compare. the 950 is an excellent product. the better your entire system, the more it is evident. this is my not so humble opinion. if i omitted your pet piece of equipment, if i offended anyone and if seem anything other than a person who did his homework and is defending that fact, i ever so humbly apologize.