Thanks guys for the help. I looked at the H/k receivers and the one I am looking at is a little out of my price range. I think it will be worth it if I save. The problem is that the receiver would be in a very enclosed area. I have built a fan into the back of my cabinet, but I'm not sure it will keep it cool. I like to listen to my music loud and for a long period of time, that tends to make my current Kenwood extremely hot. Has anyone done similar tests with the H/K's with all channels driven and if so what was the results? I also have another question. Doesn't 7.1 sound seem the ruin the imagery? It seems to me what the original intent was it to act like a center rear, but what I have seen is the two SB channels too spread out to make it seem like a center channel. I'm glad I heard about the Sony products, has anyone had the same experiences?