One cable to rule them all: Light Peak

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  1. Sam Posten

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    Guess what im doing tomorrow? :(
     
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    Didn't I warn about that some time ago?!?!? On, you know, Page 1 of this thread when I quoted the costs?
     
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    We were talking about raids then, not consumer drives...
     
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    So I drove an hour north, bought the goddamn $50 cable, drove home, burned my windows ISO and started bootcamp.
    Huh, the drive doesn't show as a valid target for bootcamp. Let's research this a bit:
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    Engadget reviews the SSD version ($900) and find that it's expensive and fast, duh.
    http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/08/lacie-little-big-disk-thunderbolt-ssd-review/
    No mention of it being unsuitable as a bootcamp drive.
     
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    For $900 you could buy a new Windows PC and KVM swtich, and probably have money left over for pizza. :)
     
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    While Sam won't want to think of it this way:

    2 120GB Intel SSDs = $214 my price local; so $428. I can get a Raid-0/Raid-1 USB3.0 Enclosure for $132... and it includes the cable. So, $560. Counting the cable here, you're at almost 1k.. the difference could basically buy me a mini-PC with a USB3.0 port...

    I have no idea who the target audience is for a 240GB RAID external that's 1K.
     
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    People with more money than sense.
    Another review:
    http://www.anandtech.com/show/5066/lacie-little-big-disk-240gb-ssd-review
     
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    Given the recent price surge in hard disk drives, $1K may be a bargain a month from now...
     
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    Too late or just in time? Thunderbolt PCs in April 2012:
    http://www.macrumors.com/2011/12/26/thunderbolt-coming-to-pcs-in-april-2012/
     
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    No doubt will help bring prices down.
     
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    Lower pricing yes, but we need more consumer devices too.
    And Bootcamp needs to support external drives.
     
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    The flood starts with a single raindrop:
    http://www.theverge.com/2012/1/8/2692078/acer-announces-aspire-a5-worlds-thinnest-ultrabook
     
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    No USB 3 =(
    http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/09/belkin-details-thunderbolt-express-dock/
    Bigger RAID from LaCie:
    http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/08/lacie-announces-2big-esata-thunderbolt-storage-options/
     
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    With USB3 external drives on the shelves of BestBuy (bought one yesterday), and nothing Thunderbolt in sight (or affordable)...why is there no USB3 on the Mac? I'd love to speed up my backups 10x, but that seems impractical even with a new Mac.
     
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    I'd never pay $300 for something from Belkin, much less a product that is already badly out of date before it even goes on sale.
     
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    From what I have read, the general consensus on USB 3 on Apple's gear is that when the current generation of hardware was designed/released, Intel's chipsets didn't offer USB 3 support and apparently Apple didn't feel the need to add it via a 3rd party solution.

    We will see what happens when the next batch of hardware gets updated.

    -KeithP
     
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    Ars did a story on ThunderBolt news from CES.
    http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2012/01/will-2012-be-thunderbolts-year-devices-arrive-in-force-at-ces.ars

    -Keith
     
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    Yeah this part definitely makes sense as to the stall:




    Some good devices shown.. but still, it's a trickle. Thunderbolt may be a superior product, but it's cost per consumer is still not enough to make it a breakthrough product.
     
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    The ONLY way I will pay a price premium for an SSD thunderbolt drive is if Apple relents and lets you put Bootcamp on external drives which is currently not permitted by OSX. This is a terrible and dumb decision on Apple's part, and I hope they fix this soon.
     

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