Oliver! - Where?

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  1. westham

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    Yes I will be looking at the TT release but don't want the cost of a 3rd version unless there are transfer improvements. Also be nice to see some decent chapter marks too so you can jump to the key scenes.
     
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    Waiting for specs, so I can see if it's a different transfer or something.
     
  3. Doug Bull

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    I'm guessing that the recent Australian release is probably the same as the UK and other European releases.
    The Aussie Blu-ray looks very good.

    It's hard to imagine that Sony would spend a lot of money creating a new HD master for International release and then do it all over again just for TT.
    The isolated score might be the only difference, still I hope I'm wrong and that an even better transfer has been prepared for TT.

    We will soon find out.

    As a side note, though "Oliver" was advertised and presented as a Roadshow presentation at the time (late 60s), Australians were hoodwinked and actually only got to see a standard 35mm print.
    I was somewhat shocked to discover this recently.
    For all these years I truly believed we saw the 70mm version.

    The first 70mm showing in Sydney was in April 1981.

    Doug.
     
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    Does anyone know when we might place and order with SCREEN ARCHIVES ENTERTAINMENT?
     
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    Here you go as preorders won't start until tomorrow,the 23rd at 4:00 p.m. ET.

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    thank ya!!
     
  7. Kenneth_C

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    From a discussion on TT's Facebook page:


    Also:

     
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    So the TT transfer is the same as used for the currently available International Blu-rays after all.

    I'll now stick with the cheaper Aussie release and forgo the different Menu, chapter stops and the separated Music/Effects track.

    Those that go with the TT disc should be happy with the Picture and Sound quality.


    Thanks for that info Ken. You saved me doubling up.
     
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    The international release doesn't have chapter stops at all? Or it just doesn't have a scene selection menu?
     
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    It does have chapter stops but no scene selection menu at all - all very basic. The TT release looks like it will be addressing this point very nicely with a re-authored release.
     
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    Thanks for the info Ken.
     
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    For those interested in such things, the number of prints struck for the original release, beginning in the fall of 1968, was as follows:

    18 70mm prints struck via optical blow-up from the original camera negatives.
    All 70mm prints were struck at Tech London.

    11 35mm dye transfer Fox perf prints struck in 4-track magnetic, beginning in
    March of 1969

    10 35mm dye transfer optical prints struck by Technicolor UK for the original
    release from October of 1968 through May of 1969, with another 93 for later
    dates, beginning in June of 1970.

    US domestic prints were struck via dye transfer at Tech Hollywood.

    What these numbers, in their most basic sense, tell us, is that the original camera negative was run at least 30 times, plus any re-prints for complete reels, as well as heads and tails of 70mm damaged in projection.



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    Now available for pre-order.
     
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    Pre-ordered!
     
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