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  1. Ronald Epstein

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    EPISODE 2 TRAILER:
    I know it's only a teaser, but all this hype
    for virtually nothing. It's a 1-minute teaser
    that's over before you blink.
    There's no music. No dialogue. There are
    about a dozen 1-second glimpses at bits and
    pieces of things that will make you ooh and
    ahh, but when it's all over you wonder what
    you just missed.
    Monsters Inc. will disappoint many
    Pixar fans. The animation is stellar, but
    it's a kiddie movie. The film lacks any of the
    charm that Toy Story 1&2 had. Jokes fall
    flat very quickly, and I think many of us only
    briefly chuckled at a few of the gags. There are
    no adult jokes here, and the middle section of
    the film gets a bit weighed down.
    If you are not interested in spending $7-$10
    to see the eye-blink EPISODE 2 trailer, you may
    wish to wait for DVD until you see Monsters Inc..
    PS: It's a shame that Lucasfilm screwed Fox
    by putting this trailer on a Disney film.
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  2. Lou Sytsma

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    Ouch!
    Double bummer as I had looked forward to seeing both.
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    Thanks for the heads up. I'll wait and download the trailers from the exclusive website, and I'll probably buy Monsters Inc on DVD for the kiddies when it comes out.
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  7. Brian Kidd

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    OK folks, now remember: This is only one person's opinion. Every other review I have read of MONSTERS, INC. has been very good to excellent. I'm not saying that Ron is wrong in his opinion; he's perfectly entitled to it. I'm just saying that I think it's a bit silly to read one, very brief, review and throw up your hands. Let's face it, even if MONSTERS, INC. isn't the best film ever to come out of Pixar, I guarantee you that it will be miles ahead of the majority of films that have been released this year. I mean, come on! This forum is full of people who bought BATTLEFIELD EARTH when it came out. I, for one, will be there on Friday and I'm sure I'll thoroughly enjoy the film and the short STAR WARS (STAR WARS, durn ya! STAR FREAKIN' WARS) teaser.
     
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    Of course it is a kiddie movie....isn't that what it is supposed to be?
     
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    Troy,
    Did you read my review of Monsters Inc a few days ago. I felt the same as Ron did. Its a cut movie but thats it. It doenst have the charm of Pixars other films like TS or Bugs Life.
     
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    I have no problem with Ron's opinion on Monsters Inc., it is his opinion and I will have my own when I see it on Friday. However, I do disagree with his opinion about attaching the trailer to a Disney film.
    What is the big deal? Would people rather go see films like Monsters Inc. and Harry Potter to get a glimpse of the new Star Wars, or would they rather go see a total piece of shit like Wing Commander. I love Fox and I appreciate what they do for DVD, but they do put out their fair share of stinkers. Just because they have nothing big coming out in the next few weeks, is Lucas supposed to attach the trailer for one of the most anticipated films of 2002 to some film many people won't see? I don't think so. IMHO, this is a good business move by Lucas.
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  12. John Berggren

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    The reason why it can be considered that Fox is getting screwed is because they are all but giving distribution to Lucasfilm. Most of what they get for distributing the Star Wars films aside from a minimal fee is public perception that Star Wars is a Fox film. It's a great thing to have, but you'd think that Lucas might scratch their back for the inexpensive distribution solution by providing a trailer for a Fox film as opposed to 2 other studios.
    I don't think they should do it like last time and attach it to a turkey like Wing Commander, but Shallow Hal would have benefitted nicely.
    OTOH I can appreciate Lucas wanting to attach his trailer to 2 of the 3 biggest films of the season. And in the end, it will help Fox, as they'll likely use AOTC to run their 4 minute + block of trailers next May.
    I enjoy Disney and Pixar films enough that I'm going to check out Monsters Inc. I hope to enjoy it, and I'm sure there'll be something in it for me...
    At least now I know that god-awful trailer description with it's hokey dialogue is false, being that there is no dialogue in the trailer. Thank god for that.
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    Sheesh, sounds like the Ep. 2 trailer tells us even less about the actual film than I thought.
     
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    Remember folks, the Fox logo is still in front of the trailer, not a Disney logo. So people will still seee that Fox is attached to Star Wars.
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    The Episode 1 trailer played in front of plenty of non-fox films. If I remember correctly I saw it before The Matrix.
     
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    Thanks for the scoop, Ron. I've now heard a few disappointed reviews as well as a few that simply RAVE about Monsters Inc. (My friend Erik wrote one at efilmcritic.com) I'll be seeing it tomorrow afternoon and I can only hope I enjoy it a bit more than you did.
    The news regarding the SW trailer is especially disappointing. I'm a big fan of 'coming attractions' and I was hoping to see a trailer similar to the one for TPM.
    O well. I'm sure we'll all be "Star Wars"ed to death in the next few months anyway.
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  17. Ronald Epstein

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    Troy,
    I think you are going too way out on this.
    First of all, I am not totally trashing the
    movie.
    But who most frequents this forum? Adults.
    You are getting the perspective of this film
    from not only an adult, but someone who has
    been a great fan of Pixar since the beginning.
    It is my opinion that if you are an adult fan
    like myself, you are going to be very disappointed
    in this film. I will again repeat that it has
    none of the charm or adult humor that the TOY
    STORY films have.
    As for what kids think? I think kids like
    anything animated starring cute monsters. I hate
    to say it, but how could a film like this NOT go
    over well with kids?
    This is just the first Pixar release that seems
    to totally abandon the adult crowd and instead
    cater to the kiddie crowd. The film stars an
    annoying baby that doesn't even talk.
    To sit here and tell me that I am being bias
    to any studio is simply ludicrious, and frankly,
    I am tired of reading such nonsense. If you have
    been a member of this forum long enough, and know
    me for what I write, I have no problem telling my
    opinion the way it is -- for or against a studio.
    Take a few moments and read the other reviews I
    have written (there is so much to choose from)
    on the SNEAK PEEKS area. There are reviews
    that totally trash a movie and it doesn't matter
    which studio it comes from.
    More than anything else, I care about what I
    write here. I realize I have a reputation on the
    internet and I am very careful not to tarnish
    that reputation by seemingly catering to anyone.
    Know who I cater to? Our members! I write
    reviews keeping our members in mind. Our membership
    consists of adults -- not children under the age
    of 13. So, when I write that this movie is going
    to disappoint, I know the audiance I am talking to.
    Furthermore....
    It is my understanding, talking to a few people
    in the industry, that there is a big amount of
    resentment towards Lucasfilm for not only putting
    that Episode 2 trailer on a non-Fox product, but
    also a situation involving a THX trailer that was
    to star Shrek.
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    I just took a quick look at the starwars.com site to see if they had the trailer for download like Ep. 1 did, only to find out this new trailer is exclusive to Monsters, Inc.. Admittedly I'm a little surprised by this. I certainly understand that Lucas would want to find the best vehicle to promote his film. It makes perfect sense to have the trailer before Monsters, Inc.. But, not to have the trailer before any other film is surprising. In this aspect it does slight Fox.
    Between this and the Shrek THX debacle, I'm think Disney has paid for some big arrangement with Lucasfilm. I'm starting to think it's not Lucasfilm that's using the biggest movie to promote his film, but rather Disney using the Ep. 2 trailer to promote Disney's film. In this regard, the Shrek THX trailer is a competitive conflict towards Disney.
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    I wonder if the Episode II trailer attached to a Disney film is the first half of a quid pro quo deal, the other half being a trailer for a forthcoming Disney/Touchstone/Miramax film will be attached to Episode II next May.
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