Just thought I'd share my observations abour these two players after having just purchased both and comparing them. For starters I have a Pioneer Elite 610 (which locks in full mode) and a VSX-24TX receiver. My old DVD player which I am replacing was a Toshiba 3109 (non-progressive). I was originally looking to buy the CP72, but couldn't find one online. My local circiut city had an open-box one, but I was leary about that so I decided to pick up the new F65 ($129) instead and give it a try. To my eyes (which hadn't seen progressive DVD on my TV yet), the progressive out on the F65 was pretty good. After playing around with the picture settings a little on my TV I had a picture which I would consider slightly better than my fully-tweaked 3109 picture (which benefits from the great line doubler in my 610). Interlaced output on the other had was bad. Really, really bad. This model does offer scaling, but as soon as you turn it on, you get instant horrible picture. My 4-year old 3109 blows this thing away in interlaced mode. In fact it was so bad, I just had to return it. I could not live with that step down in PQ. So I went back and decided to give that open box CP72 a try ($169 after rebate). When I put AOTC in, my jaw dropped to the floor. I could not believe the picture I was seeing. The colors and detail were incredible. From 5 minutes of viewing I was already seeing details in the movie I had never noticed before. Interlaced mode was about 10x better than the F65 too. Just as good, if not better than my 3109. This player makes interlaced look like progressive and progressive look like HDTV. As I said this is my first time viewing progressive DVD on my TV, but to my eyes, you just cannot compare these two players. The picture is not even in the same ballpark. It's really a shame that Panasonic is discontinuing the CP72. My advice to anyone who is looking for a cheap progressive player is to pickup one of these things while you can. You will not regret it.