Need help with HD-DVD screen capturing for upcoming report

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  1. Ronald Epstein

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    Tomorrow, Thursday 7/6, I plan to post a report on my views
    towards the new HD-DVD format.

    One of the key features of the format is the menu system which
    allows viewers to navigate through all the settings and supplements
    without ever leaving the film itself. All of this is neatly explained
    in the WB promo at the front of every disc.

    I would like to take a couple screen caps of that demo to illustrate
    to our members just what that menu system is capable of doing.

    Since there are no HD-DVD computer drives that would allow me to
    capture images, it seems almost impossible to get the screen grabs
    I need.

    I had thought about downconverting the HD-DVD to my external
    DVD recorder through component input/output. I would essentially
    record the promo to standard DVD and then grab the images on
    my computer drive.

    The problem is, I think the copyguard protection will kick in and
    prevent me from recording HD-DVD to standard DVD.

    Last resort would just be pointing a digital camera at my TV and
    hoping for the best.

    Anyone have any suggestions here? Please do not post any images
    to this thread as I'd rather add the element of "surprise" to my report.

    Thanks
     
  2. Joseph Bolus

    Joseph Bolus Cinematographer

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    Ron, what you're proposing should work. I think that the only protection currently on HD-DVD is AACS, and it's only enabled via HDMI. (This is the reason the studios reserve the right to enable ICT via component on a title-by-title basis.)

    Of course, it goes without stating that you won't be able to record the full resolution of the HD captures onto the DVD!

    EDIT: I've just been informed that you would have to be able to go down to 480i over component in order to be able to utilize a recorder, and the Toshiba may not support that.
     
  3. Cees Alons

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  4. Ronald Epstein

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    No luck guys.

    My samsung DVD recorder has no component input (just output).

    I used RCA inputs.

    While I certainly can reduce the resolution to 480i on my Toshiba
    and play it through my DVD recorder, the minute I try to record the
    picture, I get a "can't record protected movies" message.

    I gotta find screen grabs of the menu system functions somewhere.
    I am hoping that perhaps Toshiba has it on their site somewhere.
     
  5. Cees Alons

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    Do you have a TV card on your PC?


    Cees
     
  6. Ronald Epstein

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    Cees,

    I do!

    It seems like a lot of trouble as I'd have to relocate the player
    into my office and fiddle with hookups.

    I simply used my digital camera, pointed it at my TV, and took the
    screenshots. A crude method for sure, but hopefully it will do the trick.
     
  7. Cees Alons

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    Of course it also depends on the quality of the images you want to achieve.


    Cees
     
  8. Ed St. Clair

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    WoW
    Looking forward to the thread!
    Thanks, Ron.
     
  9. JeremyErwin

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    If you had WinDVD, and a HDDVD-ROM drive, you could have used the print screen key [​IMG]
     
  10. Arthur S

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    Cees

    Do you know if Ron has posted his report, and if so where I can find it?

    Thanks
     
  11. Harminder

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    You can find the report HERE. Enjoy! [​IMG]
     

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