Need a gentle push towards the Canon XSi

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  1. Patrick Sun

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    Over at Amazon, they are giving back the entire $200 instant rebate promotion when you buy a Canon XSi kit (with 18-55mm IS lens) and a Canon 55-250mm IS lens, F4-F5.6), which makes the deal around $716, the camera's in stock, while the longer lens would ship later. I just wonder if there's a better deal around the corner as Canon is running promotions to deplete their XS and XSi inventories in order to go full bore with the recently released T1i, and upcoming release of the T1. The current promotion ends tomorrow 7/11/09, and I've been hemming and hawing for a few days.

    Part of me is thinking that maybe I should wait for the T1 (I don't really need the HD video capabilities of the T1i), which would have Digic 4, and a better LCD screen than the XSi (if it's close to being the same as the T1i's LCD screen).
     
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    Don't you already have a 40d? Personally I would feel cramped with the xsi class camera as a primary camera but the d5000 is growing on me as a backup/leave it in the car camera...
     
  3. Patrick Sun

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    No, never done the dSLR thang. I think you have me confused with Cameron.

    Sam, I know you and I have different threshholds when it comes to how much camera gear we are willing to lug around when snapping photos.


    Edited by Patrick Sun - 7/11/2009 at 05:10 am GMT
     
  4. Sam Posten

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    Oh, that's right, you had like an a570 or something similar at our events now if I remember right. Well, in that case, go for it, the XSI is probably the gateway drug to bigger and better =) If you have a Costco tho I would go buy their kit setup there, its a nice package with a case and you get 90 days no hassle returns which is WELL WORTH whatever delta in price there is, within reason.
     
  5. Scott Merryfield

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    Patrick, that is a good price for the package. Both lenses, while not the best, are well-regarded for their price point. That kit should cover your needs for quite some time.
     
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    Did you get the silver or the black?
     
  7. Patrick Sun

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    In the end, I decided not to pull the trigger on the deal, I'm just waiting on the T1 specs now, and seeing if more deals will materialize with the XSi. I can't remember if I saw the XSi package at Costco a few weekends ago, or was it the T1i package. I'll have to check it out again at Costco soon. The hunt is back on, I suppose...
     
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    If you are sold on the t1I you should follow this thread:
    http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?sduid=0&t=1434581
     
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    I trust the New Zealander who reviews at CameraLabs.com. He says this, comparing the two:

    Source: http://www.cameralabs.com/reviews/Canon_EOS_500D_Digital_Rebel_T1i/index.shtml
     
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    Thanks for the link, Will. Now I wait for the T1 to finally show up because I doubt I will want the T1i's HD video capabilties (just not a video dude).
     
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    Patrick,

    I own and use almost daily the Xti, it's the same size with almost the same feature set (features that count). I see no advantage going to the T1 just because it's the new model. Don't sit on the fence too long, using a digital SLR with 10 MP or higher is quite simply fun. You will be amazed at the shots you'll get. Truly, the only way to frame great shots is with a TTL SLR. You just can't do it with a a piont and shoot (without some luck).
    I always carry 3 lenses, 18-55mm, 70-200mm and 300mm. The other item that will help with great shots is a monopod. you can get a very inexpensive one at Walmart for $19.00.

    Good luck, let us know what you end up with.
     
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    If you can save significant $$$ (toward better glass, etc) by going w/ the older model, I'd go that route.

    I doubt they've improved much on these bodies to pay more for the new one (unless you really want the video features).

    _Man_
     
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    I ended up selling my monopod. I shoot a lot of movie palace interiors and neon signs, and found the monopod only helped with exposures from around 1/4 to 1/8th of a second. Any faster than that I could do handheld, any slower and I needed a tripod. I picked up a light tripod which is serving me very well. So I would say weigh the type of shooting you do against the advice of buying a monopod.
     
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    The arrival of the T1 may drive the price of the XSi down a bit more, though I still would like to know if the T1 will have the same LCD screen as the T1i since it's a much better screen than the XSi screen. I don't really care for liveview, so that's not much of a feature for me. Reviews have pretty much made it clear that to get the most out of the 15 megapixels with either the T1i or T1, you need to use good glass, and I'm not all about megapixels arms race, so 10-12 megapixel wouldn't be a negative. I just keep going back to the LCD screen as the main reason to keep the T1 as an option, though I might end up with the XSi in the end.

    Thanks for the feedback on accessories (monopods, tripods, lenses).
     
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    You probably aren't shooting those interiors with a 70-200 or 300 fast prime tho. Even those are debatably improved by a Mono, but the superteles basically require one (or a tri)
     
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    Patrick,

    I think you are making a smart move not buying into the 15MP hype. I routinely enlarge my images to 14x19 inches and some even larger. 10MP stays sharp at that size image with zero pixelation visable. of course, if you were to use a magnifying glass you could probably see some pixels. As for the Monopod, I shoot outside most of the time, the monopod makes a huge difference in keeping the image as sharp and focused as possible, especially with the zooms. As for the LCD screen on the camera itself, use it only to perform cursory looks at your shots, always,always view your shots on a well calibrated monitor before deciding to dump them. Many times I have checked an image on the monitor and found artistic or very neat images that only needed cropping here and there to make them keepers.

    Bill
     
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    "You probably aren't shooting those interiors with a 70-200 or 300 fast prime tho. Even those are debatably improved by a Mono, but the superteles basically require one (or a tri)"

    No, I'm usually at the wide end of the spectrum. If I do want to zoom in on some feature, I need the stability of a tripod. A mono is just too limiting for the type of shooting I do. I'm not trying to suggest that they're not useful, they just don't do a whole lot for me.
     
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    Yes, higher megapixels is as much marketing hype as anything, unless you do a lot of cropping of your images -- then the extra megapixels can be useful. With my old 8MP Rebel XT, I have enlarged to as much as 20x30 without any issues.
     
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    If you rarely actually need a monopod, maybe you could use your tripod like a monopod on those occasions when you do need one -- although you'll probably want to use a different (swivel/tilt) head for it for such instances. I have both (made of carbon fiber), but I've been finding myself using my tripod as a monopod quite often.

    FYI, a monopod is more useful for shooting (moderately predictable) action and such than inanimate objects/scenes -- for the latter, you're better off using a tripod (as suggested by others). Of course, if you're using a IS/VR lens or some other form of image stabilization, then that would make a monopod less useful (though not completely so).

    _Man_
     
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    Since I have lenses with image stabilization, I've never bothered with a monopod. I do have a decent carbon fiber tripod and ball head, though. For my types of shooting, this combination works well.
     

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