Neato cool idea on how to get a fullframe, 4:3 matted, and 16:9 image on ONE disc!

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  1. Patrick McCart

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    http://cztoondb.tripod.com/coolidea.gif
    What do you think, sirs?
    BTW, Help! is NOT a 1.78:1 film! It's actually 1.55:1, but this is only for example purposes.
    Basically, the top and bottom of the image that should be replaced by black space is like a subtitle.
    So...you get a fullframe transfer, a matted 4:3 picture, and a 16x9 transfer out of ONE signal!!!
    Talk about the space that could be saved on a disc...
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  2. Jon Robertson

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    I can't see anything - it just says Not Available For Download. [​IMG]
     
  3. Matt DeVillier

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    Patrick,
    that's not possible. when a 1.85:1 AR movie is anamorphically enhanced, all (well 98%) of the 480 scanlines are used. there would be no room to store the top and bottom (the open matte part).
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  4. Adam Lenhardt

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    Interesting idea, along the lines of the Ghostbusters commentary track. It wouldn't work however. Between Pan & Scan (and even open matte) there are minor or major differences in it's presentation which would offset the picture at the top and the bottom. This might be an idea for Super 35 films without effects shots, however.
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  5. Patrick McCart

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    The middle part of the image is the actual 16x9 image.
    The top and bottom are "subtitle" additions which can be switched from image to matte.
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  6. Jeff Kleist

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    This was done by Sharpline Arts on one of the Re-Animator titles. There are NO prints or negatives left, only a full-frame transfer. So they put a matte on a subtitle track
    However, as was said, if it's anamorphic it doesn't work
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  7. Kenny Goldin

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    How about this idea: studios can sell P&S and LBX titles seperately. The easiest way to identify them would be to put the LBX versions in keepcases or snappers, and all P&S discs in jewel cases.
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  8. Karsten Serck

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    What I actually don't understand about Warner's new policy is why they don't use Pan & Scan vectors on their discs instead of pure Pan & Scan editions?
    This technology that enables the player to display a Pan & Scan version in realtime is used even by a smaller local studio here in Germany on all their releases and gives the choice of using a widescreen and Pan & Scan version of a movie on a single disc.
    Does Warner not have any clue about this?
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    I can't see the picture to which you linked, but based on what you're saying, it simply can't be done.
    You can use this method to get a full-frame and letterboxed image on the disc (as mentioned above, it's been done before), but you still won't get the added resolution of a 16:9 transfer.
     
  10. Jeff Kleist

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    Karsten-
    That technique only works with anamorphic transfers of 1.85:1 movies. With scope films, you still get "black bars"
     
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