Neil Brock
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We've gone over this with him in other threads and he doesn't get it.Ron1973 said:The publisher of the music still has to be paid regardless of who sang it.
We've gone over this with him in other threads and he doesn't get it.Ron1973 said:The publisher of the music still has to be paid regardless of who sang it.
At this point, I'd take the cut versions because that's what I remember anyway. The picture quality would have to beat what I have nowNeil Brock said:Complete versions yes. Tapes do exist of cut syndicated versions.
A company is unlikely to put out cut versions of a show, especially one with questionable marketability. That aside, the music replacement costs wouldn't justify a release.Ron1973 said:At this point, I'd take the cut versions because that's what I remember anyway. The picture quality would have to beat what I have now
Sigh, so goes life of a classic TV fan. You're right, though. The last time I remember syndication was 23-25 years ago and even then it was only on Saturday mornings and titled "The BJ/Lobo Show." I know The Dukes of Hazzard was a more popular show but I'd take BJ any day.Neil Brock said:A company is unlikely to put out cut versions of a show, especially one with questionable marketability. That aside, the music replacement costs wouldn't justify a release.
Companies release cut versions of stuff all the time, sometimes by accident, but sometimes on purpose.Neil Brock said:A company is unlikely to put out cut versions of a show, especially one with questionable marketability. That aside, the music replacement costs wouldn't justify a release.
Yes, but a cover version is a mechanical royalty. Using the original recording requires permission. BIG difference.Ron1973 said:The publisher of the music still has to be paid regardless of who sang it.
Wow! I didn't know that BJ was lost. What happened? Were the complete versions lost in the fire or destroyed on purpose?Neil Brock said:Complete versions yes. Tapes do exist of cut syndicated versions.
As a fan of both BJ and Lobo, I would love to see them uncut, remastered for hi-def....the whole works. However, Neil has pointed out the fact of how cost prohibitive it would be to transfer these from the original film elements not to mention the cost of marketing, etc. We can gripe about Universal but they are just like any other company-they are out to make a profit.tv.fan said:the tapes were lost for BJ but the original camera negatives-film still exists (original broadcast versions) - UNIVERSAL is too cheap - stupid - dumb - ignorant - does not care enough about the fans -- take yout pic and that describes UNIVERSAL
Ron1973 said:As a fan of both BJ and Lobo, I would love to see them uncut, remastered for hi-def....the whole works. However, Neil has pointed out the fact of how cost prohibitive it would be to transfer these from the original film elements not to mention the cost of marketing, etc. We can gripe about Universal but they are just like any other company-they are out to make a profit.
Personally, I find BJ to be of a higher quality than The Dukes of Hazzard. They were both of the same genre, released to TV around the same time, etc. Sadly, The Dukes had a bigger following (and were not a Universal property either) and have a better name recognition than BJ or Lobo. Case in point is Enos, the one season spin-off of the Dukes. Warner still hasn't released it, either. It's all about what will sell and what has name recognition.
Number one, yes, the "rural purge" was stupid in my opinion. Okay, even as the world's biggest Beverly Hillbillies fan, I think the show was running out of steam but one more season to wrap up the story line would have been nice. Green Acres, not a favorite anyway but I think it could've went on for a little bit longer. Mayberry RFD was finding its footing. However, the one thing I find hilarious (and gets overlooked) is that CBS also cancelled Hee Haw that year. Classy move, CBS, classy move. Hee Haw went into first run syndication and lasted until the early 90's.Ethan Riley said:And by the way, everybody moans over the fact that CBS had a "rural purge" of its lineup in the early 70s, and yet ended the decade with a top-rated "rural" show??
avagard1 said:Neil has no idea what he is talking about
for one thing they cost to transfer them is minimal, since they own the masters and would be doing it in-house - simply paying the people to do it for time they would be doing that - they are there anyway - so no need to incur extra costs
NEIL really shows how cluesless he is when he mentions the marketing would cost too much - LOL - 99.....................95 of shows have no marketing beyond either being on a store shelf and/or release news posted online and word of mouth - both cost next to nothing
NEIL is clueless on the music replacement
they can not make a profit sitting on product not released !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Neil, I think we have a troll back under a new name.Neil Brock said:Since English is obviously not your first language, I'll excuse you not understanding what I said. Put more simply, there are not enough people who would buy the show to make enough of a profit for it to be worth Universal's time. Do you think remastering and authoring a show to DVD is free? What about all of the music that has to be either cleared or substituted? Do you think companies are going to pass up releasing a show they think will make them a lot of money?
Because they're CBS and there's no known cure.Ron1973 said:I don't know of any music substitutions or cuts in The Dukes (which is a Warner property) and it was loaded with music on many episodes so tell me again how CBS couldn't clear a few songs that they chose to cut?
You do realise, Ron, that very few TV series in that day and time "wrapped up the story line." The networks (and presumably the production companies) didn't want their shows to have an "ending", as the thinking was it would play better in syndication that way. The Fugitive was the rare exception to this rule, and I'm pretty sure I remember reading that "the powers that be" had to be convinced before they would okay having the run "end".Ron1973 said:Number one, yes, the "rural purge" was stupid in my opinion. Okay, even as the world's biggest Beverly Hillbillies fan, I think the show was running out of steam but one more season to wrap up the story line would have been nice.
Do we know for a fact that the only tape copies are cut ones? The reason I ask is that at late as the early '90s, Universal were still offering other shows to stations in their choice of cut or uncut. I had off-air recordings of Battlestar Galactica from KWGN circa 1990 that were from uncut tapes (one episode had a VT "leader" card that got accidentally broadcast, betraying the fact they were using tape and not a film print).Neil Brock said:Complete versions yes. Tapes do exist of cut syndicated versions.
Yes, I'm sure they did exist BEFORE the fire that destroyed most if not all of the Universal tape library.AndyMcKinney said:Do we know for a fact that the only tape copies are cut ones? The reason I ask is that at late as the early '90s, Universal were still offering other shows to stations in their choice of cut or uncut. I had off-air recordings of Battlestar Galactica from KWGN circa 1990 that were from uncut tapes (one episode had a VT "leader" card that got accidentally broadcast, betraying the fact they were using tape and not a film print).
Unless someone has hard evidence, it's just as likely that there are uncut VT masters of B.J. and Lobo existing in the archive alongside the pre-edited and/or sped-up ones.