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Discussion in 'AV Receivers' started by Brian_Tho, Jan 15, 2003.
*rifles through magazines and annual equipment guides, and browses Internet reviews*
Here is a list of receivers less than $500...there are more if you buy from places like etronics, onecall, jandr, etc...
HARMON KARDON AVR 125$399.99
HARMON KARDON AVR 225$499.99
SONY EX STR-DA1ES$499.99
I would go with the Kenwood VR6070. It's the only THX Certified, 6.1 Receiver I know of under $500.
92Watts x 6 of actual output for under $500 is tough to beat.
Yes, but the problem is I will not be able to audition. I am buying online. My original ? was what is the most powerful receiver under 500 dollars. Would that be the 6070?
Thanks Andy thats what I have heard so far also. Just wanted to confirm it. As for George, I tested the 325, and found its audible qualitys wonderfull, power was a joke! Maybe I was testing a receiver that was setup wrong. I no the H/K guys hate me know. Thats just my opinion, of course I could be wrong!
In your other thread, I thought you said you listened to the 125. You made no mention of the 325.
Listened to the 325 yesterday at CCity. Sorry I didn't clarify.
Why are you so concerned about power? Remember that doubling the power will only increase output by 3dB - that's not a lot, and not worth worrying too much about. Speaker sensitivity will also make a difference, as will the size of the room.
IMO, in this price range, the "sound" of amplifiers is very much unimportant. It is the room and the speakers that make the big difference. Make sure that when you listen to them you disable any "sound enhancements" and that the system is set up properly!
Remember this when you consider both how much you spend and what to spend it on. You'll find that in a few years time you will probably want to upgrade anyway.
My advice is to buy a receiver that:
1. YOU like the way the interface works (INCLUDING REMOTE!)
2. YOU like the look of.
3. YOU like the sound of (Unimportant unless you are using YOUR speakers to audition it)
(Notice the YOU in capitals - people can give advice on this or that unit until they're blue in the face, it won't change what YOU like)
I agree. So all receivers in this range have the same power output? I am very concerned about power, I think that turning the H/K 125 up to 0dec just to get decent sound is crazy. A friend of mine has a str-de835 and soon as he cracks the volume it puts out mad power. Why do the older receivers operate diff. The new ones have to be cranked way up that concerns me. I would like to have a receiver with good power. Maybe Im a newb, but please explain this to me.
No, not all receivers have the same amount of power. What I am getting at is that they can likely produce SIMILAR amounts of volume into a given speaker.
As for where on the volume control one has to be to produce the same apparent loudness, that is completely different, and depends on the preamplification stage that the manufacturer decides to use. Some are designed so that they are producing their full power when the display measures 0dB, while others have different levels.
The Sony that you describe probably reaches it's limits once you are half way round the volume scale. After that, it'll start clipping, and just start sounding awful. Ofcourse, it'll be louder, but the sound will not be clean.
Don't worry about the numbers, or the features (unless there is something you really need - not likely IMO - 5.1 channel DD and DTS is enough for me). Most of them are meaningless, manipulated, marketing.
Worry about how it feels, looks, and sounds.
Might want to wait for the new pioneers to hit retail in march. 475 for the top of the line (non-elite series i mean). They just released them at CES.
I looked at the kenwood also but things like the 10Mhz compnent bandwidth and the low number of digital inputs kept me away.
HK 325 Costco 499.99
I had narrowed down my choices to an H/K 325 and a Kenwood 6070. I did an a-b comparision of the Kenwood 6070 and H/K 320, (they didn't have a 325), this past weekend. Yes I could tell the difference, but I really couldn't decide which one I liked better. I decided I could enjoy either one. My Kenwood will be delivered today.