Jari K
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Nice one, Robert.Robert Crawford said:And I don't appreciate the inference from you...
Nice one, Robert.Robert Crawford said:And I don't appreciate the inference from you...
Just to be logically accurate, the first statement does not prove the second statement.The first statement says that once they switched. It doesn't mean (or even imply) that all (or even most) theaters switched. Or when.Now I don't know what is true about the actual situation. But given the kind of financial burden the theaters would face, it might have taken a lot longer than a year and a half to switch over. Sure, New York and L.A. would move quickly, but there is a whole lot more to this country than just those two cities.Bob Furmanek said:Our documented research has shown that once theaters switched to widescreen beginning in the summer of 1953 and throughout the year, they did not go back to 1.37:1 presentations.By 1955, the academy ratio was a dead format in theaters.
Walsh61 said:There's a scene after Borgnine takes Betsy Blair home where she goes into her parent's bedroom to tell them about all that had happened to her that night. For some reason that was cut from the DVD release. I've never heard why. I hope it's been restored for this blu-ray release.
Once theaters converted in 1953/54, they would not have shown these films in 1.37:1. The ratio was abandoned and exhibitors did not purchase new lenses and aperture plates to continue presenting films in the old ratio once widescreen was introduced.Keith Cobby said:The AR's in the trade press would have been the recommended ratios. I would imagine theatre goers in the mid 1950's would have seen all sorts of films in different ratios. I have the same film on DVD in different ratios (eg While the City Sleeps) in 1.77 and 1.33, and The Monolith Monsters blu-ray has both ratios on the disc. I presume theatres would have shown these two films in both ratios, I prefer the full frame versions, others will prefer widescreen. Same with Marty.
Judging from this sentence in Matt's stellar review, the answer is yes:FoxyMulder said:So is this uncut, does it contain the scene below as asked by another member. ?
Thank you, Dave. And you're right. The scene asked about is there, and it's wonderful. I'm not sure I had seen it before I reviewed the disc.Dave B Ferris said:Judging from this sentence in Matt's stellar review, the answer is yes:
In expanding his teleplay for the big screen, Paddy Chayefsky retains every scene from his TV version but adds interesting backstory for Clara (we even meet her parents in a crucial scene that’s sometimes omitted from prints of the movie; it is present in this release)
But what I'll bet you didn't know is that the specially-prepared Academy format version lay unused in the vaults for years until it was finally unveiled in that 1998 Laserdisc release. Believe it or not the earlier home video releases were of a pan-and-scan of the CinemaScope elements, not the Academy version!Bob Furmanek said:Theatrically, 1.37:1 was a dying presentation format by time it was released in June 1955.
However, Walt Disney entered the television arena when he signed a contract with ABC on March 29, 1954. The show DISNEYLAND premiered on October 27, 1954. Disney extensively promoted the upcoming film on his TV series and showed many clips before it was released.
The film was first announced in June of 1953 and was marked for CinemaScope production from day one. There is no reference whatsoever to the film being available for booking to exhibitors in the standard ratio. If it had been available, there would have been some mention in the trades and I can find nothing to support that theory. If anybody has some documentation, please share.
Even with his vision, I'm sure he did not anticipate the day when a full 2.55:1 image could be seen properly on the small screen. For those reasons, I strongly suspect that's why he produced a 1.37:1 version as well. It was certainly not intended for theatrical.
Nope. The laserdisc is the only way the Academy version of Lady has been released on video. The Robe Blu-ray features the Academy version as a picture-in-picture feature, but even there it's not the whole movie.Josh Steinberg said:Does the "Lady And The Tramp" Blu-ray include both versions? How about "The Robe"?
That's too bad, I would have loved to have checked them out... I love looking at movies that have different versions in circulation (looking forward to checking out the two versions of Oklahoma soon, I've never actually seen it.)Mark-P said:Nope. The laserdisc is the only way the Academy version of Lady has been released on video. The Robe Blu-ray features the Academy version as a picture-in-picture feature, but even there it's not the whole movie.