Mannix is Coming! (All things Mannix w/spoilers)

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  1. Hank Dearborn

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    Actually they weren't syndicated at all. When they made up the Mannix package it was only 130 shows from season 2 thru some of season 7. The final 2/3 of season 7 and all of season 8 have never re-aired, at least in the U.S. And even though the show did well enough on CBS to last 8 years, it has always been a terrible performer in syndication. How that will translate to DVD sales, I don't know. I'm just happy to be getting the first, and IMO, best season. After that, I have the next 130 on tape from when TV Land ran them complete and uncut so I'm not too worried over how far Paramount goes with the series. I hope I'm wrong but I really can't envision us getting 8 years worth. Least of all if they do split sets, in which case we'd have to get 16 sets.
     
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    The one thing that concerns me about CBS/Paramount is that they've launched so many new releases recently that appeal to the same demographic that I wonder if they're going to be able to see them all to conclusion. Before, they had a smaller number of releases (Lucy, Andy, etc.) but releases came fairly quickly and almost all were completed. Now we've got split seasons or full seasons of PERRY MASON, MI, FUGITIVE, HAWAII 5-0, STREETS SAN FRANCISCO, DIAGNOSIS MURDER, GUNSMOKE, and now MANNIX. That's an awful lot of product competing with each other.
     
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    CBS/Paramount is great when it comes to its transfers and the variety of titles they release. On the other hand, they've given no indication they will complete all the titles they release, and their release schedule is a bit glacial; one season a year for a 8 or 9 year program isn't too great. They also do split seasons where it's not really justified; they seems more of a ploy to get as much from the consumer as possible. CBS/Paramount used to release shows through Columbia House, and they were notorious for trying to squeeze every last penny from consumers who were interested. They used to charge $25 for a VHS tape with 2 episodes on it! Split seasons is partly a legacy of that mentality. With what they used to charge, no doubt they rued the day that saw the advent of full season releases at relatively low prices.
     
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    Great to hear this series is being released!! Just for the record, after the series was cancelled, ABC showed it on late night. They showed some of the first season episodes. When I lived in Kansas City in the 80's, they showed Mannix in the afternoon hours, They showed the eight season, which was rare. Look forward to this release!!
     
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    I'm just wondering why studios don't just outsource the telecine and (if necessary) restoration work? Do in-house colorists and telecine operators have that much clout?
    I agree on this, and if Paramount didn't cut every last note of pre-existing music and the original logos they would be perfect.
    Warner's tape remasters appear to have been done in the early 1990s. The Waltons is all over the place in terms of picture quality.
     
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    Doesn't Mill Creek put their 'logo' on their releases?
     
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    What notes of music were cut from Fugitive, Hawaii Five-O, Untouchables, Streets of San Francisco, etc?
     
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    I don't know, there may not have been any, but the following sets did have confirmed music cuts/replacements:
    Gomer Pyle USMC season 2
    Happy Days season 2 (the biggest offender)
    Laverne & Shirley season 2
    Family Ties season 1
    And a replaced theme on both seasons of Bosom Buddies.
    If the show did not have any pre-existing songs on it to begin with, it is probably safe.
     
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    On some of their releases they have, but on the "Best of TV Detectives - 150 episodes" they did not include the logo on the episodes. That said, the two "Mannix" episodes included are unrestored.
     
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    It is ironic that as TVLand goes downhill in their programming, that Paramount/CBS's home video arm is going into overdrive on releasing shows. And they don't seem to use TVLand as a place to launch these DVD titles. The only time I've caught such action is when they did a weekend marathon for That Girl - which was put out by Shout Factory. You'd imagine that point of having a media empire is to get freebie ad action for your products. But this doesn't seem to be the case (look at how Time-Warner doesn't use Boomerang to push their Hanna-Barbara DVD releases). Although Time-Warner does pimp their movie boxsets on TCM. So it is possible.
     
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    There was a marathon of "Daniel Boone" episodes on TVLand when seasons 1 & 2 were launched by the independent Liberation Entertainment and Goldhil. But I haven't seen any "Daniel Boone" eps. since then.
     
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    They should be using it, theoretically, but now that CBS Corporation owns the back catalog of TV shows but Viacom owns TV Land (and MTV, VH1, Nickelodeon, etc.) it may not exactly be a freebie anymore. But I agree on how many synergy opportunities have been piddled away by them.
    The only reason TCM pimps WB movie boxsets is because they're run by people who actually appear to give a hoot about the stuff they show. Can't say that about TV Land.
    On an unrelated note, has Viacom ever not run a Cable TV network they own into the ground?
     
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    In a related note, and speaking of stations going downhill, Fox is apparently using TCM instead of its own Fox Movie Channel to promote the Ford at Fox DVD set in December. I wouldn't promote a Mannix DVD or anything else on TV Land now. You'd get a butchered episode and TV Land bugs all over the screen, and that great Lalo Schifrin closing theme would be obliterated by a promo.
     
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    Yes. HA!, but that was only because it lasted for about 6 months before they merged it with Comedy Channel and then it was owned by HBO who ran it into the ground.
     
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    It's amazing how in the Past a Great Opening, think Hawaii Five O or Star Trek set the tone for the series, with great visuals and music, that's almost all gone know as tv execs screen as much commercial time. It makes a difference, thank god Pay cable still allow for great openings, look at Showtime's Dexter, that show is set with an excellent theme and opening, it's a virtue almost gone from Network Television today
     
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    actually it would be a good thing to run them with all the crud and cuts on TVLand because then you can let folks know they can enjoy it better if they bought the DVDs. Otherwise people would dupe 'em off the channel.
    Fox Movie Channel went downhill when they yanked all the Charlie Chans.
     
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    Any chance anyone know when this DVD will be released?? Let's hope by Christmas!!
     
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    Well I found my answer as to why Paramount isn't running these shows on TVLand - they're over at Retro TV Network. My local station is using their programming to fill up their bonus digital channel. They even have Cannon. Although not Mannix yet. perhaps when the show has been digital transfered, they'll end up on RTN
     
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    What is Retro TV Land an offshoot of TV Land?
     
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    It appears to have nothing to do with TVLand. Equity Media Holdings licensed a bunch of Paramount's and Universal shows. Seems to be to service their dozen owned stations. But non-Equity owned channels are picking it up the 15 hours of programming in order to fill up their spar digital stations.
    look up retro television network on wikipedia to see if they're in your market. I stumbled across the station since the sister channel did zero promotion for their digital channel action.
     

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