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This is getting really annoying. They were big supporters when BD3D first started hitting the shelves, but this year it's been terrible.Jari K said:Another 3D film where the 3D version is missing from the BD. Nice Disney.
Since they didn't even bother to release Noah in 3-D theatrically in the US, I think it's very safe to say that that conversion was just a cash-in done for countries where audiences are still paying for 3-D.Ronald Epstein said:They aren't the only studio doing this. Just found out that Noah will be
available in 3D overseas, but not here.
While I don't have numbers, everything that I've seen indicates that 3D disc sales are pretty good. Previously, GRAVITY and THOR 2 in 3D were initially outselling the 2D via both Amazon and Wal-Mart. Out of curiosity, I just took a peek at the current Amazon best-sellers. Even now, STAR TREK 3D seems to be selling more than the 2D (#32 for 3D, #41 for 2D). Looking at pre-orders, GODZILLA 3D is #11, 2D is #24, SPIDER-MAN is ar #18 for 3D, #48, EDGE OF TOMORROW #58 for 2D, #21 for 3D. And THE WOLVERINE 3D is completely sold-out via Amazon (except for an expensive set with collectible cards, etc. etc.) Ordinarily, Amazon would re-order. Since that has not occurred, perhaps Fox is sold out as wellRonald Epstein said:So, are we wrongfully singling out Disney for what they are doing, or is
there a real problem with 3D sales here in the U.S. to the point that other
studios are also taking a hard look at what (or what not) gets released?
At least in the case of "Noah" (and also the new "Robocop"), there was never a theatrical release of the 3D version in the states, so I wasn't expecting that we'd get 3D discs for those. (And having seen Noah in 2D IMAX, I agree with those who think it probably would have worked better in 3D.) But in the cases where we got a theatrical 3D release here, there seems to be no excuse to not give us the disc.Ronald Epstein said:They aren't the only studio doing this. Just found out that Noah will be
available in 3D overseas, but not here.
So, are we wrongfully singling out Disney for what they are doing, or is
there a real problem with 3D sales here in the U.S. to the point that other
studios are also taking a hard look at what (or what not) gets released?
Have you had any luck doing so with other titles? My only experience of renting 3D digitally was through my cable company on the cable box on demand, and I found the quality abysmal compared to a BD3D. Low image resolution, tons of digital noise, lots of crosstalk and ghosting. There were a couple times I rented a movie that way, and despite the poor presentation enjoyed the film enough to buy it on disc. When I did that, I was pleasantly surprised to find that none of the issues with the cable company rental were problems with the Blu-ray. Has Vudu provided a smoother viewing experience than that? I'd be happy to give 3D streaming another try if it was actually watchable.Joseph Bolus said:I'm sure you'll be able to rent it in 3D on VUDU and other streaming services; again, just like "Frozen". Now that I think about it, Disney's agenda here is practically transparent.
Vudu will give you a better experience than the cable offering...but at a slightly higher price: $7.00. Some here will say that Vudu is almost on a par with BD but I disagree. I've seen minor picture issues and, of course, the audio is limited to DD Plus. I'd definitely opt for Vudu over cable, but never over BD.Josh Steinberg said:. Has Vudu provided a smoother viewing experience than that? I'd be happy to give 3D streaming another try if it was actually watchable.
Still, for better or worse... Disney took something that could very easily have been a blind buy, $25-30 purchase, and turned it into at worst a no-sale and at best a one-time $5 rental. I certainly can live with the extra $20 in my pocket, it's just kind of amazing that they're letting it go back into my pocket so easily.
They don't even have to do that, as both 2D and 3D can be on ONE disc (as in the case of movies such as DREDD, NURSE, HELLBENDERS, I, FRANKENSTEIN, etc)Jari K said:"there seems to be no excuse to not give us the disc"The only reason not to include the 3D version is the cost of adding one extra disc to each case, right? I can't think of another reason if the 3D master is available and released in other countries.
So is MALIFICENTJari K said:At least Dredd and I, Frankenstein are kinda short. So perhaps that's why both versions fit on one disc.